How did the new unit fair?

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by VonKrolok, May 26, 2026.

  1. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    I have the feeling, but I might be wrong, that Deva just got downgraded to some kind of Sargent role, as opposed to the Officer previous role.

    For the Deva/Dikpala team I'd probably go for the repeater option that extends the Deva zone of control and allows for some backfield hacking too

    I think the Claire team is interesting, doctoring at 17 and unhackable Imm (ARM+BTS).
     
  2. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It might be just because of the new shiney stuff. Deva are still great and can even still make a core team all on their own.

    In a game with lots of a secret objectives they are fantastic.

    This team all counts as Dikpala. Giving the hackers Sixth Sense. Then everyone is +1 to BS and +1SD. AND the MSV2 gets a +3 to Discover! The Artalis could be a Doctor instead and brings back the Deva as they are in NWI.

    DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 29)
    DEVA (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 25)
    DEVA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    ARTALIS (Engineer) K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    1.5 SWC | 112 Points

    I think it's actually possible to get a Dikpala to BS14. BS13 from REM Driver, +1 for 4-man team.
     
    #22 Space Ranger, Jun 4, 2026 at 4:52 PM
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  3. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    I am too convinced it's because of new shiny stuff, it was just a voice from the meta. Still I would put the Dikpala repeater to extend hacker bubble to 16"
     
  4. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    A choice for sure. But it's very flexible.

    How about this for a defense? I didn't realize before you can take 2 Apsara! So the REM Driver is on Dikpala HMG and Sniper.
    DEVA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DIKPALA Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 21)
    DIKPALA MULTI Sniper Rifle / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 19)
    DIKPALA (Repeater) Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 13)
    ARTALIS (Engineer) K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    APSARA (Lieutenant, Hacker, RemDriver [CC=15, BS=13, WIP=14]) Submachine Gun, Zapper ( | Deployable Repeater) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    APSARA (Hacker, RemDriver [CC=15, BS=13, WIP=14]) Submachine Gun, Zapper ( | Deployable Repeater) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    2 SWC | 136 Points
     
  5. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is:


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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    DIKPALA (Repeater) Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 13)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
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    DIKPALA (Repeater) Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 13)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GROUP 3[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    Pilot-X Team (Hacker) E/Mitter, Flash Pulse / MULTI Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 23)
    RACERBOT Mk-III Light Riotstopper, Mine Dispenser(PARA) ( | Deployable Repeater) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8)
    RACERBOT Mk-III Light Riotstopper, Mine Dispenser(PARA) ( | Deployable Repeater) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8)
    GROUP 4[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    JOHNNY KAO Plasma Carbine, Zapper, Monofilament Mine, D-Charges / MULTI Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 36)
    YUDBOT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    CLAIRE LAZHARI FTO (Doctor [+3]) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B), Disco Baller ( | MediKit) / Viral Pistol(+1B), PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 33)
    YUDBOT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    0.5 SWC | 170 Points
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  6. Space Ranger

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    I’m not having good luck. Played again with OSS on the weekend and got it handed to me by Shavastii. Mainly due to Octavia and her damn Burst 3+1 HRL. Much of it was bad luck though. I lost count of his crits my opponent ad. I ARO’d with it and a Dasyu sniper, and I had a HMG TR bot modded both with Pilot X AND Marksmanship from a EVO bot! I had six dice shooting at her and she got 2 crits! Lost both of them in one order. She went on to kill several things. So far, I’m having hard time it seems with missiles and hrl. This time Octavia and last time Swisshit.

    I can’t say how good the Dasyu sniper is yet lol.

    Racerbots are fuggin nuts! Being able to put down all those para mines is crazy.

    I had an Aspsara Lt and Pilot X to do the Remdiver. X was on the TR bot and Apsara on the Dayleth. The Zayin just had some bad luck. Otherwise, I think it would have been good. The Dayleth got to use its WIP14 once to discover a Seed Soldier but that was it. After the Zayin was killed, I moved the marksmanship over to a Rudra who came to find out K1 doesn’t work against Naonscreens! So a mix of my being new to OSS and just bad luck.
     
  7. Keith

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    Sorry for the bad dice game :( that sucks. Sounds like you had some really interesting strategies though! I actually really love the idea of using the rem drivers on the basic rems! I get tunnel looking at the higher end rems that OSS can field, didn’t even think about buffing a normal TR bot or FO. That’s awesome. Very interesting combo of units.

    Also, with regard to Nanoscreen, the only thing that can take away the arm/bts bonus is melee. Gotta be base to base. Not even templates anymore. So it’s basically the most reliable arm mod now. But K-1 will reduce all natural armor to 0 leaving only the +3 for nanoscreen, so it does kinda work anyway. Just not all of it.
     
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  8. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    It is a game of dice after all. Still it sucks terribly when you have the perfect looking plan and it doesn't connect
     
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    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    LOL yeah goes to show there's still dice and luck involved.

    On some bots it seems wasted because they already have BS13. But there's a few that don't. Those ones with the BS13 already can also use the bonus to WIP and BTS.
     
  10. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    I think probably one of the best option is on TR bots (Zayin Thunderbolt/HMG) that can help controlling a lane without MSV (vs. White noise for example). Another one I can think of is HMG Dikpala (pity it cannot receive the B2 program as well), maybe Sharvara too (BS13 on the hound is a bit scary)
     
  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Remember the EVO can still give any REM marksmanship and can even change who gets is it if it's near a repeater or IS a repeater.
     
  12. Amusedbymuse

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    While we are on the topic of RemDrivers I noticed today that the 21point 1 swc pilot X is no longer avaible in vAleph and OSSS. So I looked in PanO and they have they have it the other way around missing the 23poibts 0.5swc version. With the few lists I've made for osss I always took 21point version and now I have few 302point lists to fix....

    And even tho we got an update Dikpalas are still not in ISS

    I had a chance to play twice with new toys in our escalation league so 150 and 200 point games. Tarkshaya is a fuckin monster but in both games random Albedo -6 Aro had me working hard to solve it. Guess in a normal 300 point game you would have posthuman/yadu/dikpala HMG but in both games I also had the full package Dart (yeah another msv xD) so no points for HMGs...
     
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  13. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    WTF!? PanO shouldn't have it at all and should take away the at least of the 4 racerbots they get!
     
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    Ok i guess discord is good once in a while. Someone was talking about Max with burst 4+1 AP thunder bolt being great. But i was like "that's so expensive in that optimates team. But then found he was talking bout the MI version. Who is a Wildcard.

    So, playing around I realized it's pretty easy to do a cheap team for him that not only gives him +1 SD, but also gives him +1BS to 14.

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    MAXIMUS AGENT FTO (Lieutenant) AP Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine ( | Tinbot (Repeater)) / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (+1 | 45)
    DIKPALA (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 15)
    DIKPALA Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 21)
    DEVA (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 25)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    MAXIMUS AGENT FTO (Lieutenant) AP Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine ( | Tinbot (Repeater)) / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (+1 | 45)
    RIKSHA Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / PARA CC Weapon(-6). (1.5 | 20)
    ARTALIS (Engineer) K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    DAWON Chain Rifle, Flammenspeer / MULTI Pistol(+1B), E/M CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 19)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 3[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    MAXIMUS AGENT FTO (Lieutenant) AP Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine ( | Tinbot (Repeater)) / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (+1 | 45)
    DAWON Chain Rifle, Flammenspeer / MULTI Pistol(+1B), E/M CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 19)
    DAWON Chain Rifle, Flammenspeer / MULTI Pistol(+1B), E/M CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 19)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    ARTALIS (Doctor) K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | MediKit) / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)

    GROUP 4[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    MAXIMUS AGENT FTO (Lieutenant) AP Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine ( | Tinbot (Repeater)) / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (+1 | 45)
    YADU (Deactivator) MULTI Rifle, E/Marat, Disco Baller ( ) / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 5[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    MAXIMUS AGENT FTO AP Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine ( | Tinbot (Repeater)) / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (1 | 45)
    DEVA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DEVA (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 25)
    DEVA MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
     
  15. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    Yes! Which is an effective +3 but only vs. in cover which happens very frequently, but not always.

    Barecat in vNomad has MOV2-2 and was not changed... somebody may be in a worse spot :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    Totally concur!!!
     
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