Let’s talk about Aleph’s situation in N5.

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Angus, Nov 7, 2025.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think we will ever see TAG pilot figures. It’s just like Rem Racers. The rules for them might even be gone next year. I also don’t think we will ever see the remotes that are with TAGs. How would they even put them out? If they were sold with the TAG it pushes an already expensive box up and most of them already out. People with them be irritated they would need to buy another TAG to get that figure.

    What I think they should do is more two-figure sets like the Tinker with Zetbot. TAG Pilot and TAG Remote. Qishi + Shangdiao for example. The pilot would need to be simple enough that it can be any of the types of pilot. So just a pistol.

    Even better is to bring back Rem Racers and do a three box set of Pilot, Racer, and TAG Remote.
     
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  2. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Double post
     
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    TAG pilots should just go back to the old dismount rules. The current 'compromise' is pretty dumb.
     
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  4. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    In previous editions manned TAGs were worse than RemPres but at least you had that sort of servicable pilot that could go out of even unconcious TAG. And now, there is nothing that manned TAG does better but you dont get 2nd unc state, cant rerol repairs and on top of it all most pilots have Cube so you can be Sepsitorised on top of Possession. Give all manned TAG imm possession and there is at least something going for them.
     
  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Or ECM (-6 Possession) and/or make the stats much worse if it is possessed.
     
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  6. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    We should talk a bit more about SP that needs replenishing after the betrayal and also about vAleph that for the moment is almost not played at all.
     
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  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    New profiles are up tomorrow!
     
  8. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    Hurray! and that's one thing, still there was no mention of SP profiles and vAleph. I think that we need to keep the ball rolling and the interest alive.

    Meanwhile I would like to point out that a way to add a sectorial without adding it explicitly has been introduced. Somebody must have noticed the motion of indignation against the reintroduction of previously discontinued PanO sectorials and now we have... sub-sectorials. All the while the AI remains the oldest faction with the lowest number of sectorials. I belive @Stiopa was vocal on how the game did not need an additional sectorial in general (for reasons connected to balance), but if a faction was to receive a sectorial with minimal impact it was Aleph and it did not happen. We actually opened up the possibility of sub-sectorials (for Nomands that have 3 megaships and so it doesn't make sense to have another sectorial...).

    I will open a forum to discuss reports on the usage of the new units.
     
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    and justice for all!

    Meanwhile Pilot-x is a rem racer
     
  10. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    All the profiles we lost, we regained and then some.

    Seems like they forgot to give ECM -3 to Garuda. All bipedal tacbots have it, but Garuda. Also the modification to Dart to include a Sharvara Anchillary unit (albeit being 42pts) is a welcome variant. I think I may try it for lolz.

    Help me here: did Yadu have Albedo? Cuz now they have it -6
     
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  11. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    No, Albedo is new for them.

    I'm happy for the changes by proxy, having Nagas and Dart in my Acon
     
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    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Dr. Lazhari is incredible. Not only is she a Haqqislam level doctor with NWI and Immunity (Enhanced), she can easily kill many things in the game. BS Attack (Continuous Damage) and BS 13 with either a breaker combi or burst 3 viral Pistols is ridiculously deadly. Plus, she is speedy at 6-2. Finally, she comes with a Discoballer!

    She is a wild card in Ramah, but is available in all Haqqislam sectorials. I think my classic Avicenna model now has a new role...

    EDIT: The Yadu Albedo change is going to be impactful as a Duo with a Asura gives you a tool for every target in one place.
     
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  13. VonKrolok

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    Interesting, but I'd probably go for Arjuna Tinbot firewall -3 DUO with Asura (to be decided whether Lt/Hacker or just Hacker). The choice in brackets is if you wanna play some shenanigan with an Apsara Lt/Hack/Remdriver with a support Shukra CoC both in the backfield.

    A list I'd try in Annihilation just for fan is Marut/Maximus TAG DUO... 170pts burned on 2 pieces (which means 2 netrods and all a bunch of spider chassis REMs for order count) but MAN! Is it going to hurt?
     
  14. Amusedbymuse

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    Haris of Asura hacker, Arjuna smg tinbot and Yadu hmg. 5 dice hmg with albedo, 4 dice mmr with msv3 and 4 dice apsmg/3dice emitter with mimetism. White noise should stack with albedo so Yadu is an absolute monster against msv aro and nco allows to use asura lt orders without breaking the link.


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    ARJUNA FTO AP Submachine Gun, E/Mitter, D-Charges ( | TinBot: Firewall [-3]) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    YADU (NCO) Heavy Machine Gun, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34)
    ASURA (Lieutenant [+1 Order], Hacker], Hacking Device Plus [UPGRADE: Trinity (+1SD)]) MULTI Marksman Rifle, Pulzar ( ) / MULTI Pistol, AP CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 67)
    1.5 SWC | 124 Points
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    It just costs a fortune...
     
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  15. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    Costy innit?! Absolutely brutal though, with all range bands covered and it's actually 5 orders effectively and all in all it isn't so taxing on SWC (only Yadu counts)
     
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    6 orders, Arjuna is TacAware :)
     
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  17. VonKrolok

    VonKrolok Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected! And all 6 orders are not affecting the capacity of the rest of the list to act. That alone makes up for the cost: 20pts per order, the cost of a Riksha FO, but with 2 specialists that can push buttons

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    ASURA (Lieutenant [+1 Order], Hacker], Hacking Device Plus [UPGRADE: Trinity (+1SD)]) MULTI Marksman Rifle, Pulzar ( ) / MULTI Pistol, AP CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 67)
    ARJUNA FTO AP Submachine Gun, E/Mitter, D-Charges ( | TinBot: Firewall [-3]) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    YADU (NCO) Heavy Machine Gun, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34)
    DIKPALA (Repeater) Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 13)
    SHARVARA Adhesive Launcher Rifle, Heavy Riotstopper, E/Marat / DA CC Weapon(PS=7), PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    TARKSIA MULTI Marksman Rifle, Chain Rifle(+1B) / . (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] TARKSIA OPERATOR Marksman Rifle, Chain Rifle(+1B), Flash Pulse(+1SD) / MULTI Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 34)
    DEVA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DIKPALA (Repeater) Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 13)
    ZAYIN Rebot Thunderbolt(+1B) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 19)
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    KINNARA Scoutbots (Parachutist) Vulkan Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
    NETROD . (0 | 6)
    NETROD . (0 | 6)
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    I reckon this wouldn't be such a bad list... The aforementioned Haris plus: Dikpala/Sharvara DUO and Deva/Dikpala DUO. Netrods are intended as placeholders, could be Lamedh (which are even better considered that they are Repeaters)
     
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