N5 Imperial Secret Service

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Space Ranger, Jan 2, 2025.

  1. burlesford

    burlesford Sheet guy

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    Appreciate the compliment, though I doubt I could save those Bao no matter the color scheme XD
     
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  2. Space Ranger

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    I'll say this about the size of the helmets are actually closer to real. Previously they might as well be wearing ski masks. Just look at guys wearing motorcycle helmets or fighter pilots. Of course their head is bigger with a helmet on. The thing that's too big is the SMG. That should be something that be shot in one hand. It would make more sense if it's the Thunderbolt we have yet to see.
     
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  3. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    I have to strongly disagree.

    Realistically, you'd want two hands on the gun and a buttstock if you want to shoot it accurately with automatic fire. Even if it is a pistol or sub-intermediate (PDW) caliber. Sure, if the shooter is strong enough, he might fire it one-handed, but that is not the point, as the accuracy will go to hell anyway.
    Perhaps if the shooter warst a HI armor. Or it is installed on a TAG.

    Albeit, true, the guns on these models seem a bit oversized, as if they were fed with intermediate cartrige and, dare I say, from quad-stack magazines.
    Both of which aren't exactly unknown IRL.
    Even on guns that do the job of SMGs / PDWs, despite technically being neither.

    Here, have a look:
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    The gun here is H&K MP5 in 9mmPara caliber, a classic (I'd even risk calling it a benchmark) SMG in favor of many units that still use SMGs (since many have switched to intermediate-caliber automatic rifles or their more compacyt, carbine variants - that's a matter for another discussion).

    The variant here is equipped with a telescopic buttstock (fully deployed) and no sound supressor (which would make it even longer).

    As you can see, neither of the operators who are ready to shoot is even trying to fire it one-handed.

    And we don't even know whether the YJ SMG is using pistol-caliber ammunition - judging by the firepower, equal to contemporary mainline infantry weapons (same PS 7 as Combirifle, same Burst - just shorter effective range) I'd guess it is possibly using the same ammunition as Combi, if in a more compact, slightly lighter weapon - something akin to AKSU-74 and its derivatives...
     
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  4. Space Ranger

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    I agree about the using two hands. I'm saying that it should be much smaller than it is. But then all of the guns in Infinity are oversized. Not just this SMG. On the plus side, it's makes me feel better when using as a proxy for a Thunderbolt or combi.

    The helmets they are wearing however are half helmet (covering the top) and then masks. They are not going to look like they have huge heads. But a man with a fully enclosed helmet with a lot of tech built in is going to look big.

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  5. Law Dawg

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    Sure, the Bao helmets are more realistic sized. For me, that's a departure from their previous design of unrealistically small helmets and that looks jarring. With padded armour on body, arm, and shoulders the helmet shouldn't look so big by comparison. That cyber ninja cosplay is a good example. The Bao helmets look big even with their body armor.

    Anyway, I am used to the look now, and I will be getting the set because the the Kanren model is just too cool.
     
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    I also think that the SMG of the Vanguard ist too big. You can clearly see that, when comparing to a modern sculpts Combi Rifle. I still think, that is some kind of scale error that slipped through the QS. The RL H&K in the picture are tiny compard to that thing.
     
  7. Space Ranger

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    I have no idea why some say ISS has little firepower. We have so much SWC1 weapons and then and 0 weapons like Thunderbolts. Not to mention MSV and Mimetisim, and a missile launcher that's a wildcard! The list below has long range, short range, and specialists. 2 haris (1 pure) 2 pure duo. 4 MSV2.

    Fiyapowa!
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 29)
    DEVA (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 25)
    DAKINI (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 15)
    HSIEN (Lieutenant) Heavy Machine Gun, Nanopulser(+1B) / Pistol, DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (1 | 49)
    SHÉNJI Thunderbolt(AP), Light Shotgun, D-Charges(PS=5) ( | Deployable Cover) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 20)
    BÀO TROOP (BS Attack [+1B]) Thunderbolt, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    BÀO TROOP Light Shotgun, Heavy Riotstopper, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    QIÁNFĒNG (Hacker, Parachutist, Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Firewall (-3)]) Submachine Gun, E/Marat, D-Charges ( ) / Silenced Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 26)
    MOTORIZED BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun, Heavy Riotstopper / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8)
    SĀCHĀ Flash Pulse, E/M Grenades(+1B) / Stun Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 6)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / Breaker Pistol(+1B), PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 19)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / Breaker Pistol(+1B), PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 19)
    Yáokòng SON-BAE FTO Missile Launcher(+1B) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 19)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse ( ) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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  8. Law Dawg

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    That's a fun looking list!
     
  9. Space Ranger

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    It was fun. I played it yesterday for Provisions. Unfortunately my opponent got two Cadmus through and decimated my Bao and Bounty hunters. But my specialist did well. I lost but it was very close.

    Edit: something to add that was fun! One of my BH snipers rolled an HMG on his booty! I might take that haris a lot. those two BH are cheap. Sure it's a regular sniper rifle but it's still long range and PS5.
     
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