September>December 2024: Nuclear winter has struck, leaving room for the N5

...yes? And it was always like this? "What if I'll face TAGs/HI links/Smoke/Mimetism in bulk/Warbands/large number of Camo/Paras/etc.?" We always had to take into account what opponent might bring to the table and make sure our lists have hard and soft counters. What flyers change is that you might also face a fast TAG with Mim-6, one STR less, lower BS, lighter weapon loadouts, that gets no cover but can't be countered by melee. It's far from not having a counter.

YES

 

Wow they are pumping them out today!

I'd say Budget Ninja! The hacker with d-charges looks awesome to me.

I'm not sure how I feel yet. This might seem like something I need to play to "get it".

But I really like the Feiquan. That E/M Carbine looks sick! It also has Sensor!

 

I dunno, I think the fact that it can fly through Disco Ballers, go straight into the enemy deployment zone, jump straight up, and shoot prone roofers in their uncovered butts makes up for the lack of fancy guns or ammo.

 

And the mobility means it’s going to spend a lot of time in the +3 range on the Spitfire, and hovering up in the air to negate Cover.

 

AP, usually yes, but because is the only option of the troop, not just because it has AP ammo. For MSV, i dont have plenty of them in my armies, and usually are not worth because expensive FT options or is equiped in a suboptimize troop.

It must be great to have options to cover every random posibility you'll face against random people with random lists. I havent. Thats why i always focus my lists in what the mission needs. But i see i am the weird one (well, not only me, also all the guys i play with)

That is like in N3. I dont have anything in my lists that need an Engineer, so why include my shitty, basic engi in the lists if i dont need it? Only to cover if i got hit by EM? I can use his points in more bodies or upgrading another troop in the list.

 

If the Red Eye spec fires the GL, then it's a further -3 to dodge? Dodge -3 and Out of LoS Dodge -3.

 

Isn't doge(-3) means that when the model makes a Dodge roll then the attacker receives a -3 penalty for the FtF? So it isn't penalizes its target's dodge.

 

Dodge (-3) is a modifier to an opposing Face-to-Face roll when you declare Dodge, not when another model declares Dodge against you.

 

I really like the Feiquan, thank you CB.

 

Nothing random about it. The list of possible types of threats is finite and not that long. I might not be prepared for everything but I can be reasonably prepared for most of it. But then again I enjoy building toolbox lists (unless I'm doing something out of the left field, like double TAG lists). You're not weird, we just have very different approaches, that's all.

 

It is also based on your expected type of play. If you do a lot of ITS, you get into a different mindset and build your lists to be able to deal with a multitude of threats and select missions. Versus pick up games with known friends. Different needs for different play types.

While some feel like recent changes could have weakened Faction Identity, I appreciate that more Factions are getting some tools. PanO finally getting more accessible Eclipse LOS blockers, direct templates, and Marksman HI ; Ariadna getting Crazy Koalas and more STR units; JSA getting viral mines and excellent shooters; Yujing getting hard hitting one man armies; Haqqislam getting more anti armor; and Steel getting cheaper filler units.

Hopefully we will see all the changes in a couple of weeks.

 

Ok. For example, you declare move, enemy
ARO is shoot, you the declare dodge, their shooting is at -3 because you dodged. So if a non msv trooper shoots an aerial, and it declares dodge, the troops is -9.

 

Understanding the biggest threats to your game plan and budgeting to defeat them with one of your lists is a big deal unless your plan is totally non-interactive, and I think only Makaul spam Tohaa can pull that off. I spent all of N4 devoting one of my NCA lists to defeating Jazz+Morans while still fulfilling the missions, because NCA's strengths are very hard to make use of against that combo.

That said, a Redeye is almost a flying Knight of Montessa that can't score. It's fairly tough, but most Ariadnan gunners will still be hitting on 7s or better against the Redeye's return shot on (most likely) a 13, and the odds will get better with Mimetism, AP, Burst, and MSV. Considering I'm reasonably sure you collect primarily CHA, you'll likely have some trouble protecting yourself in reactive since a Chain Rifle screen won't really stop a Redeye reliably, so I'd advise holding back some of your Warbands to get Smoke over your key units and Orders before retaliating in your own active turn with your best available shooter. Furthermore, most of PanO is slow and can't forward deploy- send some Antipodes to Sensor out the hidden Scarecrows, Croc Men and Trinitarians, then eat them, and the PanO player will be too busy trying to get back into a scoring position to run a serious DZ raid. PanO is supposed to wipe the floor with its peers in direct shootouts and pays for this through having some of the worst soft control and objective play in the game; take advantage of this by putting them behind on objectives with your awesome Camo midfield or starving them of Orders by killing cheerleaders with close-in attackers like Uxia or M-9 (PanO like building somewhat top-heavy in Order to have a couple of gunners who are actually better than the competition).