September>December 2024: Nuclear winter has struck, leaving room for the N5

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  1. Wizzy

    Wizzy Well-Known Member

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    The youtubers who attended the seminars with Bostria did a debate stream on the future N5 and CB.


    Corvus Belli answered some questions about N5! Featuring ‪@WarLore‬ and Arachne
     
  2. UpirLihi

    UpirLihi Well-Known Member

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    Nah, the AI voice isn't it. CB has two very loved brand ambassadors, Bostria and Hoopoe, as well as Koni, who is very efficient with community interaction. I feel like these should be done by a real person.

    Also, we have way better AI voice generators than what is used in those clips
     
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  3. Deus Kalsa

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    Way to long.
    Way to boring.

    Is there a Summery anywhere?
     
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  4. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    True. As I mentioned, CB is a company "with human face" and some connection with community. At least as many of us see them, I hope)
    And AI voice is a step away of it...
     
  5. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    While I agree human voices would be ideal, I love the concept of these videos. I hope the AI backlash in the comments does not kill this initiative. I am a strong proponent of don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
     
  6. Gio

    Gio Well-Known Member

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    Saw this comment in YouTube from bostria himself about AI voiceover. (Video about N5 from The Dice Gods channel)
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  7. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Well, he has a point there.

    OTOH, as a Haqq and Corregidor player I'm feeling I'm obligated to be as hard as possible on any AI, and make Sybilla cry a river :P
     
  8. SpectralOwl

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    I'm PanO, praise our new AI overlords!

    I couldn't even tell the voice was AI, but I've always had some trouble with voices. I'll give them this, it's definitely very clear English, almost documentary style.
     
  9. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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    I didn't realised it was AI either.
    As far as it's easy to understand I'm OK with it.
    Not being native speaker I can struggle with accents sometime.
     
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  10. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    then dont use McMurrough, he is an AI user
     
  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It's a voice i've been hearing a lot lately on Youtube. One thing nice about it it is that you can use it for multiple languages. I think I liked the one that had the female speaker. It sounded a little more natural.
     
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  12. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    Like @SpectralOwl I too am PanO and support our new AI overlords.

    For those that don’t, I refer you to…

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  13. Vocenoctum

    Vocenoctum Well-Known Member

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    I never really liked the other english voice that did the english simulated battle report things either, so it's not a big step for me.

    But honestly, CB can just send me a script and I'll say whatever they want. :)
     
  14. UpirLihi

    UpirLihi Well-Known Member

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    I see why Bostria uses the AI voice and I understand his use-case. He has a lot to do before N5 drops. This said, what CB uses now is rather dated. There are way better AI generators, with much more life-like voice, and many of them are at extremely affordable costs. To give you an idea, Play.ht has commercial use licenses for $30/month and can produce stuff like this https://voca.ro/12jXh1uvRGyK. Uberduck is, I believe, $10 and is hardly worse than Play.*



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    *I'm not in any way, shape or form connected to Play.ht or Uberduck. I'm just using them as an example of commercial use generators. The example is also one run of the model, unedited, since I don't want to use a basic account to generate voice files of copyrighted content.
     
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  15. iKon

    iKon Not Very Well-Known Member

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    "The guy in the office" was Tom Schadle from the Podcast Mayacast. He was for a while an employee of CB (I think North American Sales manager or something) but I think that had ended when he was doing the voice over work.
     
  16. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    AI voice is a tool, like everything else, I have no issue been used and the reasoning behind it is logical.
     
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    I have opted just to google for still images…the videos really do not provide any new info and the AI voices are not good at all…many better out there. If I were new to the hobby, these would not pull me in…CB should take that into consideration imho.
     
  18. Bignoob

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    In reality there isn’t so much of a summary to be done.

    While it’s an enjoyable talk to listen to, there’s just no real information / spoiler. It’s mainly 3 guys talking about infinity.

    The only thing worth mentioning is something we already know:

    - N5 isn’t going to revolutionise the ruleset. It’s mainly about streamlining some convoluted mechanics.
    - Reinforcements are going to be better integrated in the rules and won’t be abandoned

    And that’s it…

    The rest is people sharing ideas on how CodeOne wasn’t a good way to introduce the game to new players. About metal needing to stay for infantry etc…
     
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