Holomask and holoecho

Discussion in 'Rules suggestions' started by KGG, Aug 22, 2024.

  1. KGG

    KGG Well-Known Member

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    Holomask + holoecho is broken both in the rules and in the app, but I like the idea.
    Note, I've only recently started using ISS and got access to these skills, so might have overlooked some aspects.

    Suggestions for change would be:
    - Make sure all suitable profiles for holomask are available on app (thinking of kuang shi, MBH etc in ISS, but there's certainly more). This would open up all the options that should be available anyway.
    - Allow the user to place between 1 and 3 holoechos/holomask models on deployment (including the actual model - so maximum is 3, minimum is 1, essentially just holomask). This would open up more options for deception, usually AVA means you could never have three panggulings, or three MBH etc, but being able to deploy less than three models would be great.
    - And most importantly have the selected models and quantity appear on the courtesy list!
    - Keep hackable characteristic of the actual model hidden information. It should be a 'gotcha' moment, that seems like the whole point of this combination of skills. The user can reveal themselves when needed.
    - Forget about the 'delay' ARO. Keep it for holoecho, but not for the combination of holomask and holoecho, they're meant to be representing actual models, so let them act and look like actual models.
     
    #1 KGG, Aug 22, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2024
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  2. nintendofilo

    nintendofilo Active Member

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    I would honestly prefer to separate holomask and holoechoes completely. I feel as separate skills they have a good purpose but the whole holomask combined with holoecho is where the interactions get very weird.. The army app doesn't support it well and getting 3 similar models for a bluff that may not last more than a few interactions and not even that useful during your active turn (as you need to declare they are holoechoes once you move) feels more trouble than it's worth
     
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  3. iKon

    iKon Not Very Well-Known Member

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    Can we also have the weapon entries of the thing you are masking as printed on your army list?
    I hate when my poor memory gives away that i am holomasking because my opponent asks what range the unit has and I am unable to answer even with my printed army list infront of me with all my actual weapons.
     
  4. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Interesting, never thought about that.
     
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