We will update the forum rules and code of conduct in due time, do not worry. The main issue here is not if you have an opinion I do not like, it never was the issue it never will be the issue, it is how you choose to express it. You come here and mock the other users that have a different opinion that you have, there is nothing to be gained by anybody other than you with this behavior and I do not appreciate such behavior in the forums. If you want to participate in a discussion as a constructive member of the community, you are free to do so, if not, you are free to not participate in such discussions. Ultimately its your choice.
@psychoticstorm Thanks for answering me without tagging/qouting (but in reallity no, no thanks)! Sure you are an admin, you can wirte whatever rules you want it is your prerogative ("paper will accept everything"). Now ad rem, a little bit more inqusitive mind could have make a question "How did it come to that a productive member of community decided to don an armour of contempt and cynism?" There is a bonus here, as the answer to this might also give quite good start in contemporary european politics xD (especially in european south). BR, Your guy
You know, I get the dissatisfaction you get from the current state of infinity but your arguing with a mod. Its his job to be positive about the game. I have never heard of a mod that would be allowed to be pessimistic over the game they are a mod for. I dont get what all the sarcastic comments toward a mod are suppose to accomplish. You do realize he doesnt write the rules of the game and may generally still enjoy playing Pano. Such people exist, check out the Infinity discord.
I was wondering what on earth was your comment in the other thread, thanks for clarifying that, I am sorry but I must inform you that contemporary political discussion and contemporary events are not allowed in the forums, there are plenty of forums, youtube channels, reddits social media and whatever else for people to discuss the grim realities of modern life, this forum is not it.
I do, even MO that I am not good with them, that does not mean I do not understand the comments of the other posters in the thread, or agree with some, and I did lay out a few of the issues that must be thought of when feedback and change is asked to help better feedback. That been said, while negative feedback has its place, a negative feedback that is in a null state provides nothing.
What's sad to me is how many people manage to mix up "being dissatisfied with something and voicing criticism" with "being cynical to the point of trying to ruin the fun for everyone else". Those two things, as crazy as it might sound, are not the same.
I'm not a moderator, but I think that's enough off-topic We know that N5 is coming with no major changes to the rules, but a rewamp in the units and profiles. I know that its a dream (PanO can't have cool stuff), but it would be nice if PanO (the TAG faction) was the only one with some TAG in haris
Discord's an awful substitute for a forum. It's alright for discussing fresh news, but hard to look up rulings or advice more than a few hours old. That's my greater worry- we haven't seen anyone new showing up and asking fresh questions for a long while now. I'm worried it's indicative of a lack of fresh and interested players, or a game state obvious enough nobody feels the need to ask questions or get debate going in order to improve.
That is improbable, cutting a TAG Haris from factions that already have it will not be well received, now giving PanO Haris that involve at least a TAG would be nice, or wildcard FTO TAGs.
Thats right! Its just boring to skimm over this in every thread about news. We know that N5 is coming with no major changes to the rules, but a rewamp in the units and profiles. I know that its a dream (PanO can't have cool stuff), but it would be nice if PanO (the TAG faction) was the only one with some TAG in haris [/QUOTE] I think (or better I hope) there is a reason that we not have haris with TAGs that are better than BS13.
Have you tried the infinity discord? Because while it lacks the option to look up rulings, generally new people just asks questions and get answers. So its not really an issue. This forum's reputation is so bad I suspect new people are told to avoid it in favor of the discord or other social media sites like Facebook. Honestly, I dont care about a TAG Haris as much as I care about Vanilla Pano being about to take duos with a TAG and Blade Engineer. Thats such a great combo and not every faction gets it.
I definitely have. The problem is it crosses over into disrespect and ridiculous denial of reality on his part.
Yup. Saying that GML is problematic is apparently saying you want Infinity to fail and die to some people.
While pre cleanup it was not the best place, Facebook and at least some discord are not that far from what it was and what it is, the reputation is in my opinion unjust. Hopefully we will see some return and stability now.
It's very much a tonne of newer players coming to the Discord and asking questions. It keeps me quite busy. Every time I try to make this place a place for discourse I get hit with - PanO's shit why even play the faction...All the other factions are better. As this is not conducive to PanO player retention so I don't bother with persistent pushes. I direct my efforts to the Discord. There is more conversation here by people who don't play PanO than those who actually do. We just crack on and keep practicing with the faction.
Hence why I said what I said, there is no point in been negative for been negative and not try to work with what you have and succeed. PanO can be improved, and good opinions can go forward, but not with an attitude that tries to stifle everybody that is happy to play a faction.
Helps that when making an account on Discord you can get directly to posting as well (server rules notwithstanding). Last I checked CB still had the archaic method of personally approving members and they're not quick about it. I can't blame anyone for going to another community where they don't have to wait weeks to months to join in the conversation. I'd say it's not one single thing keeping/driving people away from the forums. Some of the perceived issues contribute to it more though.
Gotta say, I do not remember a weeks-long sign-up process for this place. If that's actually a thing, then I can definitely understand the move to other sites even if the archiving is rubbish. Because CB hates your money and doesn't want it. Rather, I suspect it's due to Remote Presence being so ubiquitous among high-power TAG factions. There's a lot of near-TAG Heavy Infantry able to join even Fireteam Core, but they're usually still able to be taken out of commission without undue effort. Remote Presence makes recovering a TAG very easy after an opponent has likely invested a full turn into dropping it. So far they've only let TAGs that forgo the usual firepower gain access to extra Burst. On the topic of improving PanO, I guess I'd like to see our TAG gameplay as a design focus. They're meant to be the stars of the show and every PanO player I know of owns and tries to use them now and then. Unfortunately the main PanO force doesn't back them up as well as it could, our Engineers aren't reliable at clearing states, our Hackers tend to be speedbumps at best against specialised forces and we're bad at screening out CC attackers. Obviously a lot of this is intentional to balance out the power of the TAG profiles themselves (even the humble Squalo minces HI with every order, nevermind self-sufficient beasts like the Cutter), but we're missing a lot of the tools that could let us proactively slow down the opponent's attack and work with the TAG in a more integrated manner. I'd like to feel more like PanO is built to facilitate top-heavy combined-arms lists (most PanO lists seem to be built along these lines even without TAGs), in essence, rather than simply be a faction that happens to have good TAGs.
I think that you can definitely field in a TAG while having backing elements (in terms of role, firepower, and utility). The main issue as you point out is that your hackers are at best barebones and unable to defend them against a power-hacking faction. Now you can’t pump up significantly PanO hacking without making them too powerful. A second course of action could me the utility back up of such tags. Again as you say the engineers are crap at best (with the exception of blade ops that is extremely powerful), and there is few to no counter to hacking networks of repeaters and pitchers without spending an undue amount of points or orders. And that is where I potentially see a small window of opportunity to help PanO. Maybe providing TechBee with a special rule that says she can have Palbots without being engineer would be a massive improvement? So that she can herself or her palbots go and deactivate repeaters / gizmofix HI/Tags
