Grenade trajectory

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  1. StephanDahl

    StephanDahl Well-Known Member

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    A question arose last game:

    How is a grenade "trajectory" defined? Can you throw it from within an objective room (with a roof) through the open door to a point outside the room where you don't have LOF in a boomerang-like horizontal curve? Or does the curved trajectory only apply vertically, allowing you to lob grenades over intervening obstacles but not around them?
     
  2. Delta57Dash

    Delta57Dash Well-Known Member

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    There is no grenade trajectory. Either you have Line of Sight, in which case the grenade is thrown in a straight line just like any other BS Attack, or you perform a Speculative Attack, in which case any legal trajectory is enough to qualify (in other words, as long as the target location isn't the inside of a completely closed room).
     
  3. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    And as anybody playing for long enouph to know how the game plays with actual parabolic trajectories, will say you, the game plays far far better without them.
     
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  4. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    I kinda miss shadow zones.

    Made about half of our tables unplayable for grenades ...

    But I also miss "elevators" and the catch-all "activate" short skill.
     
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  5. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Shadow zones bogged the game down. Activate and Elevators were useful rules to help make terrain pieces, such as overly tall buildings, playable.

    @Bostria Still want the scenery rules to come back.
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, imagining a Domaru just slamming an E/M grenade straight through plaster and mortar kinda sells the spec fire that doesn't care about proper trajectories.

    The catch-all Activate was useful for those complicated tables with lots going on, but there's nothing preventing you from re-inventing the skill for those rare tables.
     
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  7. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    I was on some tournaments with so called "table-rules"; like
    -no placing on top of pillars in caves (signed with cute little markers that looked like traffic signs with a red cross above footprints)
    -in-house staircases that needed a short order per level.
    -short order to open a laser gate and another to close it again

    and so on.... i don´t see any problems with that. These are parts of the terrain and don´t come with any disadvantage for either player.
     
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  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Plus smart grenades with a limited amount of mobility built in, grenades 180 years in the future are probably closer to semi-autonomous drones than the simple metal-wrapped explosives of the past century or so.
     
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