Anyone seen a page with a quick listing of the LVO’s Infinity results? Lots of 40K coverage out there but I’m striking out looking for results for our favorite squad skirmish game…
Yea. I played day 1 with my QK, then had football day 2 so that was that. Here is everyone that finished all 5 rounds. Top 3 are Vanilla CA, Kosmoflot, Kosmoflot.
Also congrats Polynikes! Interesting to see Kosmoflot in 2 of the top 3. Would be interested to see those lists (and want to know if the Volkolak/Rokots link featured in both).
Hey! I've asked them to show rosters, so here they are: Spoiler: 1. Polynikes CA Get Going ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 3 CHARONTID (Lieutenant, Multispectral Visor L3) Plasma Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Heavy Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 69) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) DARTOK (Hacker) Submachine Gun, Pitcher / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 18) Q-DRONE Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 25) MOTORIZED BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 9) ÍMETRON . (0 | 6) ÍMETRON . (0 | 6) GROUP 2 4 2 1 R-DRONE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) R-DRONE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) OVERDRON Heavy Rocket Launcher(+1B), Submachine Gun / Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 51) STALDRON Flash Pulse / CC Weapon. (0 | 0) KURGAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Drop Bears / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CC Weapon. (0 | 7) 3.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Spoiler: 2. dtjunkie19 KOSMO LVO kosmo 1 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 1 1 VOLKOLAK Heavy Machine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B), Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 43) VOLKOLAK Missile Launcher, Chain-colt(+1B), Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40) ROKOT Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) ROKOT Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) PATCHER Vulkan Shotgun(+1B), Akrylat-Kanone / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 27) WARDRIVER (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 14) RAVENEYE Submachine Gun, E/Marat, Flash Pulse, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) UNKNOWN RANGER AP Spitfire, Chain-colt / Heavy Pistol, T2 CC Weapon. (1 | 47) VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) WALLACE (Lieutenant) T2 Rifle(+1 Dam), Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 35) GROUP 2 3 2 3 VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) POLARIS TEAM undefined / undefined. (0 | 32) CONTROLLER Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) POLARIS BEARPODE Chain Rifle(+1 Dam, +1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 23) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army LVO Kosmo 2 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 1 3 UNKNOWN RANGER AP Spitfire, Chain-colt / Heavy Pistol, T2 CC Weapon. (1 | 47) VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) STRANNIK (Doctor) Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse, Light Riotstopper ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 19) WALLACE (Lieutenant) T2 Rifle(+1 Dam), Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 35) UXÍA McNEILL (Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol(+1B), AP CC Weapon. (0 | 27) S.A.S. (Forward Observer) Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, AP + Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 21) POLARIS TEAM undefined / undefined. (0 | 32) CONTROLLER Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) POLARIS BEARPODE Chain Rifle(+1 Dam, +1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 23) GROUP 2 3 2 3 BEARPODE Heavy Shotgun(+1 Dam), Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 31) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) RAVENEYE Submachine Gun, E/Marat, Flash Pulse, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) PARA-COMMANDO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 31) VARANGIAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 9) 2 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Spoiler: 3. mooingfish KOSMO Bertechvore ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 3 1 UNKNOWN RANGER AP Spitfire, Chain-colt / Heavy Pistol, T2 CC Weapon. (1 | 47) ROKOT (Paramedic) Submachine Gun, Grenades ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11) WARDRIVER (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 14) POLARIS TEAM undefined / undefined. (0 | 32) CONTROLLER Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) POLARIS BEARPODE Chain Rifle(+1 Dam, +1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 23) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) TRAKTOR MUL (Deactivator) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 5) CHERNOBOG AP Heavy Machine Gun, Heavy Flamethrower, Chest Mines / AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 65) CHERNOBOG PILOT Submachine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0) GROUP 2 5 4 2 BEARPODE Heavy Shotgun(+1 Dam), Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 31) ROKOT (Lieutenant) Submachine Gun, Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) ROKOT Submachine Gun, Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) ROKOT (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Grenades, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10) ROKOT (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Grenades, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10) VOLKOLAK Missile Launcher, Chain-colt(+1B), Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) SECDET CSU Agent Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 11) CORSAIR BASHI BAZOUK Rifle, Light Shotgun, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Tech vore classified ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 6 2 1 UNKNOWN RANGER AP Spitfire, Chain-colt / Heavy Pistol, T2 CC Weapon. (1 | 47) ROKOT (Paramedic) Submachine Gun, Grenades ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11) WARDRIVER (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 14) POLARIS TEAM undefined / undefined. (0 | 32) CONTROLLER Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) POLARIS BEARPODE Chain Rifle(+1 Dam, +1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 23) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8) TRAKTOR MUL (Deactivator) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 5) GROUP 2 6 4 2 Equipe Mirage-5 undefined / undefined. (2 | 66) MARGOT AP Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 37) DUROC Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon. (0 | 29) BEARPODE Heavy Shotgun(+1 Dam), Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon, Trench-Hammer. (0 | 31) ROKOT (Lieutenant) Submachine Gun, Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) ROKOT Submachine Gun, Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) ROKOT (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Grenades, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10) MEKHANIK (Minelayer) Submachine Gun, D-Charges, E/M Mines / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17) VOLKOLAK Missile Launcher, Chain-colt(+1B), Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40) SECDET CSU Agent Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 11) CORSAIR BASHI BAZOUK Rifle, Light Shotgun, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) 5.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Spoiler: 4. Nazeen SEF Compact Biotechvore 2.0 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 SHESKIIN (Lieutenant) MULTI Rifle, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 51) GWAILO (Multispectral Visor L2) Heavy Rocket Launcher ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 43) M-DRONE FTO (Nanoscreen) Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 22) Q-DRONE Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 25) Q-DRONE Plasma Rifle / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 24) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 18) R-DRONE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) MENTOR (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 28) CALIBAN (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 29) NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) GROUP 2 3 3 TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Gwailo speculo ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 GWAILO (Multispectral Visor L2) Heavy Rocket Launcher ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 43) M-DRONE FTO (Nanoscreen) Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 22) AÏDA SWANSON FTO (Minelayer) Submachine Gun, Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 20) MENTOR (Lieutenant) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) SPECULO KILLER (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades, Shock Mines / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34) SPECULO KILLER (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades, Shock Mines / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) Light Flamethrower(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) Light Flamethrower(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 9) CALIBAN (Engineer, Deactivator) Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) SHROUDED (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Shock Mines ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25) GROUP 2 1 3 3 NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) TAIGHA Chain-colt / DA CC Weapon. (0 | 7) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Interesting lists, also far away from all the Powercreep-units and GML-tacs so fiercly feared and hated in some subforums. Especialy Polynikes list looks amazingly fun and interesting to play (and play against), although Sheskiin/Gwailo/M-Drone link seems like a beast to face. Very refreshing overall, and motivates to think outside the box. It seems, it´s not the list overall
* While the CA and Shas lists are super different, both Kosmoflot players had a least one of the feared Double Bear list. Opponents need to make sure they have something to deal with those. You are right that GMLs were not used in the top lists however. Polynikes list looks super interesting and technical. It is also cool to see a Chernobog. Congratulations to all of them for playing so well.
Thanks @Lesh' , those are really interesting. I only see one for Polynikes… did he play LVO with a single list?!?! Some confirmation in the Kosmo lists of what the obviously overtuned elements of that army are, but also nice to not see double bears in BOTH lists for both players. Really glad Sforza exists. Would love to see more access to MSV viral weapons out there for all armies, to help with bear-hunts. Would like to know if Robert Shepherd’s Tohaa list from CanCon was tweaked to take on double bears, and if that gave him a leg up. Tohaa do have good viral/visor coverage compared to anyone else. Regardless, as usual the top players at events put the lie to “solved” play in Infinity (like GML dominance). The overoptimized elements mostly affect lower-skill players (self included) who let parts of our lists essentially play themselves.
To be fair, Polynikes could probably play with a randomly generated CA list and still have won the event :P
At least that's the roster that was provided by him. I assume he played all missions with it. I've seen top8 factions, and I think there was only single Tunguska at 8th out of Nomads and its sectorials. GML is an issue if it's widely used by players in your meta, and if they're using it appropriately/effectively. I have no insight into LVO meta, so it's possible that it's not popular there at all.
In my opinion, Infinity is a tactical game, not a "strategy" game, therefore the utilization of the elements you bring is more important than what you bring in (more or less why the "its not your list" meme was created and is still relevant), it is difficult if at all possible to "solve the puzzle" in a tactical game (in contrast to a strategic game) because the interaction varies greatly and is dependent on the opponents tactical response.
There's still a few important considerations at the strategic level when you're facing matchups you can't reliably win with certain tactics- for my NCA, for example, I need at least one of my lists tailored to counter Hacking quality skew from ALEPH, Nomads and Combined, since all three can field Hackers that are extremely resistant to the KHDs I usually support my REMs with in my preferred list archetype. This is of course less of an issue when playing a more capable faction such as most Vanilla armies, and given CA can field units that can compete for the top of every role in the game it's no wonder that it's so dominant- high-skill players can bring just about any game plan with the faction if they can play around its top-heavy nature.
Jeez 2 bears and Duroc . I'm not surprised CA got top. The guys yelled out "without Avatar or Anathematic!" But then has a Charontid as that's much better lol. I'd like to see what the other armies are.
Polynikes has always been very good. He was #1 in ITS some time ago and is a CA specialist who always has played unorthodox lists. His YouTube channel is really helpful in understanding his process and approach. I hope he puts up some new videos talking about his LVO matches.
I'll keep an eye out for it but I'd be more impressed if it wasn't CA. Am I seeing things or is there no Yu Jing players at all? BTW the missions were Biotechvore, Frostbyte, Frontline, Cryogentics, Rescue