Is it possible for a Minelayer with Camo to deploy as a marker, along with a Mine, and not inadvertently reveal which marker is the Mine, and which is the Minelayer? (Please note: This is not a ZOC measurement question) If the Minelayer is deployed standing, then its Camo marker has its normal silhouette value (i.e. S2) while the Mine will be SX, immediately showing which is the Minelayer and which is the Mine. If the Minelayer is deployed Prone, then its Camo marker will be SX (as this is the silhouette value of a Prone trooper, and Camo markers adopt the silhouette value of the model they represent), but it will have a Prone token next to it, also betraying the Minelayer's identity as compared with the Mine. I know this is sort of an edge case, but it happens to affect a number of the armies I play. I did some searches on the subject but didn't come across this specific question. Apologies if it's been answered already. A potential workaround: would it be illegal / unethical to put a Prone token next to both the Minelayer and the Mine, to clearly indicate that they are both SX silhouette? ----- Relevant rules for Camo markers, Mines, and Silhouettes: A Camouflage Marker has the same Silhouette (S) value as the Trooper it represents. Mines have a silhouette value of X Prone models have a silhouette value of X as well, i.e. equivalent to their base’s height and width. During the Deployment Phase, players may deploy one or more of their Troopers Prone by placing a Prone Token beside them.
Mines are not SX while in Camo state. They are S2 as the rules tell you Concealed This weapon or piece of Equipment uses the effects of the Camouflage Special Skill. Refer to the description of the weapon or Equipment for more details. Camouflage Markers concealing a weapon or a piece of Equipment have a Silhouette (S) value of 2.
Thanks, you both, for clearing that up. If the rules on the wiki page for Mines contained this information, instead of relying on the reader to toggle between the Camo and Mine pages and try to decide if a Mine - listed as a deployable - also qualifies as a "Weapon or piece of Equipment" for the purposes of the Camo definition, it wouldn't be as confusing. Sometimes deployables are their own unique things, sometimes not. I appreciate the help!
Yes, I see that now, obviously, though I should note that the hyperlinks there point to the "Labels" page, and not the individual traits. Also, with how explicit the rest of this effects block on Mines is, I feel it's a missed opportunity to reduce confusion by failing to include mention of the Silhouette 2 trait of the interaction of Concealed > Camo > Deployable > Weapons & Equipment here. It's like the one thing left out of an otherwise extremely verbose block. Further doubts are introduced when the weapon block indicates SX as the Silhouette, though as noted this only applies to the Mine once discovered. I see the N4 rulebook is where this all originates, I'm just saying it's an opportunity for improvement.
