Zamira Berserking while Dismounted

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  1. Methuselah

    Methuselah Well-Known Member

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    For Posterity: Can Zamira declare Berserk on her bike, then dismount and move 8" into B2B to CC?

    The new Zamira profile has Berserk on the bike profile, but not on the dismounted profile: Picture1.png

    Rules for Berserk:
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    Rules, under General Movement, for Dismounting:
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    I think the answer her is No, because of the text in general movement: The new Troop Profile (Mounted/Dismounted) is applied for the entire Order Sequence, while the original profile will not be considered. But I could also see it going the other way because the declaring profile has the relevant skill. I am generally not sure how this interaction works and would like a clear idea.
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It is as you write; she would be unable to dismount because her dismounted profile currently does not have Berserk. I say this with confidence because that's how very similar situation of TAGs dismounting works.

    That said, I do think it'd not be an outlandish question to ask @HellLois : isn't Zamira supposed to have Berserk when dismounted as well?
     
  3. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Berserk on a MOV 8-6 bike?!?! Jeez, that’s a long charge range!
     
  4. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    No it's not.
    Zamira have to has Berserk when she is dismounted as well. It was a mistake.
    Now should be fixed.
     
  5. bladerunner_35

    bladerunner_35 Well-Known Member

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    Hola querido Hellois! ;)

    Just wanted to tell you how great it is to have you back and I also love these latest "smaller" updates where you tweak profiles and change points costs or skills across the board. Also great to see how attentive you guys are fixing small errors like Zamira's berserk.

    Great job! Hope your back is back!
     
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    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Thank you! It's a pleasure to be back. And my back is better. I still have minor pains, but I'm continue working on them. ^^
     
  7. MattB89

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    Yes, especially with an E/M CC Weapon, it seems a little too strong.
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    She has to start that move in LoF though, so the target will always get a chance to trade with her, and her durability is... not great at all.

    I'd say she is now finally a viable alternative to Zuleyka's Burst 2 EXP CCW/Burst 3 Breaker pistol. Zam is more likely to do damage and is a better option against a CC specialist, but Zul is more likely to survive and better at chewing through skirmishers and cheerleaders.

    Outside of CC Zamira is a little better at shooting but she doesn't have continuous damage on her templates or AP so I call that a wash.
     
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    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Exactly. She finally has a role in Haqqislams and actually brings something unique. While Zuleyka is still amazing, her sister will no longer be ignored.
     
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    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    She always be the "not popular sister". I hope this change helps she to see more college parties :P
     
  11. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    It is a bit scary to think what badass biker babes like this would do to a college party!
     
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    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Bloody party!
     
  13. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    We could ask Kasym, he's a party animal I hear and close to both of them.
     
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    Savnock Nerfherder

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    I vaguely recall thinking that we might get a chance to hear from him again at some point. Wasn’t his actual perma-death at their hands left a bit uncertain?
     
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  15. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Vengeful biker come back from the dead is always a fun trope. We already have whatserface in JSA, but surely the Khanate could use their very own GhostRider/Lobo crossover character.

    I just hope we get the Twins still too, and that they and Kasym Returned could represent separate power groups in the Gaqbar Khanate, occasionally allying against outsiders. Internal intrigue always makes for more interesting stories.
     
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    I like the changes to Zamira and that finally she's the less expensive sister. Nice buff with Berserk et cetera. Will definitely try her out, maybe start playing with 2 motorcycles.

    But, to get to the important part:

    Wise words from a wise man.
    We have to be heard properly:

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    WE NEED KASYM BACK.

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    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
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