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Let´s talk about... Zoe

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by anubis, Sep 22, 2022.

  1. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    Greetings, fellow Nomads

    I would like to talk about the different Zoe & Pi-Well versions, expecially the Pros and Cons of Pi-Well beeing sync or seperated.


    Sync Pi-Well:
    ECM Hacker -3
    +1 B BS-Attack without any other further support needed
    forcing the opponent to decide between beeing hacked through repeater or jammed or templated. No Matter what he does, he can be targeted without FtF
    More "expendable" due to not loosing Orders if Pi-Well goes down
    9 Points discount compared to the seperated one
    Both Zoe and Pi-Well move with one order



    Seperated Pi-Well:
    +9 Points
    +1 Order (and + tactical awerness due to ITS14)
    Also, because of ITS14: no disadvantage with ECM Hacker -3, also gains Marksmann
    exchanges Jammer and direct-Template for CombiRifle and a +1B Flash Pulse
    Sensor, F/O, Triangulated, Linkable
    Option to play a BS-Zoe to increase her 8'' potential
    able to push buttons


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    While I think in vanilla the load-out with the sync Pi-Well is an amazing multitool, Bakunin opens up a very interesting option to run the duo in a small little harris, maybe accomplished be either a super-cheap Moderater (paramedic?) or a Moderater w/ Spitfire to extend the range of the team to 24''. Speaking about a team for 53/59 Points, bringen all sorts of specialists to the table (eng, hacker, F/O, veteran), tools (hacking device, pitcher, d-charges, Sensor) and firepower (Mimetism-6 B4 combirifle w/ Marksman, or a B5 Spitfire when in dire need).
    Beeing able to use the TacAwerness Order granted by ITS14 seems like cherry on top.

    The only (not to be neglected) disadvantage is not beeing able to evade FtF like the sync option, and the lose of the Harris option for an option with more firepower (like Taskmaster+Morlocks or Riot girrrls + moderators/drones)


    What are your thoughts about the options, especially with ITS14 enhancing the solitair Pi-well to a 19Point Multitoolkit?
     
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  2. Jason839

    Jason839 Well-Known Member

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    I could see myself taking Zoe+ Sync Pi-Well in a vanilla nomads hacking/guided missile list. The Sync pi-well had a pitcher and jammer that would be pretty interesting in a list like that, plus the ecm hacking. In a Bakunin list I am taking the FTO versions and using Pi-well as one of my main shooting pieces/button pushers in the midfield. He brings a lot of utility to Bakunin. Ive killed so much stuff by running tiny gun toting pi-well into good range band, repeating white noise in front of an msv troop and then having pi-well light them up,
     
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  3. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Been a big fan of this duo since they came out long ago!

    I love toolkit deathstars. A core link with Pi Well, Zoe, Riot Grrl spitfire, RG tinbot, and Moderator paramedic is going to be in at least half my Bakunin games this season. I just love having solutions for most problems right there in one team. Your chances of achieving Classifieds with this team are pretty high.

    It’s definitely a way less resilient striking force than my all time favorite link (Riots core with Avicenna and Fiddler). But it’s still pretty capable of picking the point-people back up after unlucky dice. B3 gizmokit gives decent odds. And a Tinbot on Zero Pain can soak enough hacking orders to make an opponent think twice about trying to fry Zoe.

    Using the Core for Zoe and Pi also leaves your Haris open for Taskmaster and Morlocks. Or just use the excellent RG ML and 2 Moderators defensive turret. Either way add skirmishers to taste, the inevitable Uberfalls too, and you’re got a nice flexible list.
     
  4. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Also @anubis thanks for pointing out that extremely nasty fork with sync Pi-Zoe. I’ve been so excited about the new linkable options that I missed that nice setup. Definitely going into my vanilla GML-friendly lists.

    Glad I finally decided to upgrade to the new model right before the rules changes came out, and then ITS 14 put the icing on the cake. Gonna see if I can get some paint on them this weekend.
     
  5. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Sychro-Pi adds new weapons to Bakunin, and thusly new options to deal with opponents and to solve problems occuring during missions, whilst Zoe is still capable of supporting the whole army with her hacking and engineering prowess. And I still consider Zoe a 100% army supporter than a dedicated attack piece or else. That said I wouldn't put her FTO profile in a fireteam since this would bereave me of her repairing skill on the "whole" table (whether or not that's needed is of course list-depended). That said Pi-Well in an aggressive Haris or Core Link, preferable with a Tinbot Grrl, can be something really strong with the current spoils bestowed upon him.


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    RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 33)
    RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
    WOLFGANG AMADEUS MULTI Rifle(+1B), Chain-colt / Heavy Pistol, DA CC Weapon, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 35)
    MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 9)
    ZOE FTO-2 & Π-WELL FTO undefined / undefined. (0.5 | 44)
    [​IMG] ZOE FTO-2 (Hacker) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] Π-WELL FTO Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse(+1B), Pitcher / PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 19)
    ZONDBOT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)

    2 SWC | 153 Points

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  6. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    I ran the new pi well over the weekend, he targeted a fusilier link at 36" with B2 on 10s then dropped a guided missile to kill the paramedic and lieutenant. If I had bothered he could have them triangulated fired a pitcher on an 8 to finish the rest of the link. I think he's great to play, I imagine we'll see him a lot more often.
     
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