I would take a unlinkable B5/BS-3 Kriza over a B6/Mim-3 Kriza in a Fireteam. CB should not allow B6 in fireteams. Its just feel wrong. And mimetism seems like a spam nowadys. It looks like every sector should get a +/- (mim & visor) unit in their portfolio. I am not a Haq player, but I wonder about the Bokthar. Its very elite and a super effective cheerleader/midfield killer. But its also very expensive. And it feels not very Hassassin. A bulky servoarmored shock-unit in a sectorial that relays on sneaky and stealthy tactics. Yes Asawira has stealth ;-). And from what I hear or read, people will continue to use the alomost perfect profile of the Asawira. The not so much HI sections features one of the best HI profiles in the game. Oh and Hassassins now gets a hairy, smokewielding, doggo in their sectorial ... that is fluffy in a certain way ;-)
Whats problem with b6 kriza? For this haris you need to pay at least 100pts and takes dumb hollowmen with disgusting statline and fragile sensorbot. And all this "beauty" at sectorial with only expensive units. Tunguska need a buff, not hammering the last nail into the coffin.
Lol, that's one way of twisting words to fit a narrative. Using "fragile" to describe a sensorbot is funny. What about using what makes it great instead of a irrelevant negative trait? Linkable sensor / repeater / specialist is a massive luxury, not a downside. It's not more fragile that other link fillers, but it offers a lot more than other link filler.
There is not a whole lot of difference between putting MIM-3 on a trooper or putting BS-Attack (-3). It would really not change much, if anything at all.
I'm not entirely sure this topic is serious. There's so much damned whiplashing and jumping between topics and arguments that it's hard to follow. I mean an argument basically goes 'SteelyP should have fireteam bonuses but not even Haqq has that' just leaves me asking "lolwut" for real. Just... what even? Well, aside from applying to Dodging and MSV units, while not applying if you yourself Dodge, of course. It's actually a bit of a big deal due to what it does to Dodging units IMO, but at least they've addressed it applying to non-FTF rolls.
CB told us aboute fireteam bonuses and here we've got release with 2 updated army with no any of that features. And everything we've got a jungle terrain for morats. Where is all that fluffy things for other armies? And I am totally serious, I very like this game and play already 8 years and just want some improvment. If you like all that msv/memitism on almost all units, so enjoy cursed world, that you creating.
The only one that comes to mind is the regular shaolin haris for White Banner. It's strange indeed that neither SP nor HB received any such bonuses reserved for sectorials in the espotlight.
SP is already unique enough in having unlimited Core and Haris Fireteams but being disallowed from 5 member teams IMHO. I actually hope they keep the use of special Fireteams rare and/or minor. Reminds me too much of Formations in 40k 7th edition.
The cap of 4 is relevant (and a downside), I don't think I've ever seen the unlimited fireteams be used in a SP lists though. Having such pricey fireteam members, it's pretty damn hard to make use of it in a meaningful way.
Thats good new thing like also and taskmaster's fireteam with morlock and gakis/pretas fireteam, which just rebranding of control device, but it stoll cool. When cb anonced this, i thought that will be a instrument to make old sectorials equal to new ones, but now we can count on fingers where this feature is used.
Bohktar is fun and unique but far from broken. Being a long time Hassassin player I can take her or leave her. She is not even close to an autoinclude. Kriza having B6 and -3 to shoot would edge into the broken side because you cannot counter the -3 to shoot, it just happens, unlike mimetism where you then need to at least think a little if you want to engage certain models. The odds of you winning FtF rolls with that is exceptionally high.
People here will excuse anything CB does. Even such "design principles" or complete lack thereof in other cases.
BS attack-3 is one of the few skills I consider genuinely broken if on anything with B4 or bigger. That and the old 'crits on a 1' Fatality lvl 2 BS. And I say that because I abused the everloving shit out of the Kriza. That model with BS-3 was so insane because there was no counter. It completely overshadowed any and all high BS shooters in the army, down to the point of being better than the Szalamandra just because B5 with no counters. Allowing it to reach B6 in a fireteam is merely a way to keep it moderately strong by adding drawbacks, and it's fine. But I do think BS attack -3 could work on models with B3 or lower. At that point the modifier feels less like a no brainer and just makes the shooter stronger. I'd enjoy seeing it appear again in stuff like Missile Launchers, autocannons, etc
What about a cover mod? When in a ftf bs attack apply a -3 visual cover modifer without the arm/damage reduction, and it doesnt stack with cover. Keeps kriza normal when in cover, but now you can run and gun out of cover but retain the hit mod except against marksmanship units. You just sacrifice the Arm mod but it gives interesting options and a counter.
like half of nanoscreen? I don't think that nanoscreen is so strong that you'd have to halve it for humans. It would actually be interesting on 360 Kriza.
I'm not sure I understand your point. But if you're arguing the Kriza should have a nanoscreen instead of mimetism, I can agree with that. Cover has a weakness: template weapons and marksmanship. It would work for me and it would make the Kriza better at linebreaking.
Why bs attack -3 broken, but marksmanship is ok? It makes the same modificators window, but instead of giving enemy -3, shooter just not get -3 for cover. For example: Bolt shots on 16, target answer on 13 . Kriza shots on 13, target answer on 10. Its even worse, because kriza have more chances to miss. So tell me why? In addition some of this guys also have msv. And who is more broken?
