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Operation: Blackwind

Discussion in 'News' started by Brokenwolf, Jun 1, 2022.

  1. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    And Bochum is where JSA and SP tend to recruit from? Strange choice but I'm sure they know what they are doing.
     
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  2. KedzioR_vo

    KedzioR_vo Well-Known Member
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    And the change to ITS making LT and TAGs not a specialists were a very good thing. Too much of them had to easy with both killing and clicking. Now TAGs still can have specialists that go out of them and it is a strong option. We don't need more buffs to Achilles et cetera, who got not only direct advantages, but also few indirect (Fire with no special effect against Mimetism).


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
  3. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I think we're mostly disagreeing about semantics, then ;) I'd still call him a CC beast. There might be better CC units (I think Tao Wu would be the worst match, unless I missed some other addition), but very few units want to meet him there.
     
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  4. El tito Zylito

    El tito Zylito Active Member

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    well i think there are too many units that can handle achilles in CC, taowu is one of them, but you have bluecoats, uberfall, ajax, thyreos, casanova, Kendrat, diggers, massacre, valkyrie.. etc Really, there are too many units achilles is going to struggle against to be called apex in cc, but that is my opinion :)


    PS: I sais just a few units that came to my mind.. but oh boy kendrat is such a counter to him.. hoho
    dont want to fight her if i were achilles xd
     
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  5. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Whatever that new Ariadna guy is, has it.
    Odalisque have it tied to CC Attack.

    I visualize it as she's very quick to Dodge things, but she doesn't do it as right as you'd expect.
     
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  6. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Ssssh, don't tell him about Odalisques.
     
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  7. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    I guess he'd have to resort to just shooting those?
     
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  8. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    You’re suggesting using a gun instead of an explosive hitty stick? Madness sir, complete madness! Now drive my tank closer so I can hit the enemy with my sword!

    It’s can be sometimes forgotten that this is primarily a shooting game and CC is difficult and yet is part of the game. Understandably units that are good at it should indeed be so and there should be a means to allow them to get into close combat (usually smoke or sneaking up as a camo token for example), but that’s a totally different discussion. (I don’t want to get into that discussion here, it’s being had in another thread).

    I do feel bad for Achilles though. Like I said before, he’s lost his Duo ability without Patroclus and while he is undoubtedly a beast in CC, other characters like Hector can be as effective in CC and also more useful in the army as a whole. It’s a shame.
     
  9. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    Problem with cc has always been it's low burst. It plays a lot like dnd5e combat with d20+ mod for the big hitters but you can still roll low and your opponent can beat you. The difference between skills isn't captured adequately by the system. Extra burst for the really good cc models increases the reliability which would give true cc beasts the edge over the try-hards
     
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  10. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    :point_up_2:.

    Completely agree with this here. CC has often felt like it doesn’t accurately represent the abilities of some of it’s users. It is indeed very similar to the dnd5e system with D20 mods. The addition of extra burst regardless of martial arts or NBW or equivalents would give true combat beasts their claws back.
     
  11. Fed4ykin

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    Marital Arts should have an actual Tier Level. Right now martial Arts 2 is the sweet Spot. Anything more just gives mod to phys and for two guys it gives +1 burst.
    So why not compare martial Arts levels to give them meaning... so when for example one trooper has MA2 and another has MA4 the MA 4 can imply CC Mods for MA2 since he is 2 Tiers above the Other trooper. The trooper with the lower Level doesn't get to modify his or his opponents close combat skill additonally both still get dmg modifiers.
    To be honest starting with MA 4 the dmg mod should be dmg and not Phys. Sine it isn't just brite force but a Trainer combatant will aim for weakspots. I know dmg 15 mono would be really scary, but in my opinion it should be.

    In addition NBW could get Tiers according to MA so that an martial artist just get to use his levels above the NBW Level of the opposing trooper. Or since we already are comparing MA levels that Cancel eachother out NBW could simply be erased from the game.
     
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  12. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Achilles is a CC monster. He's a serious motherfucker. He will get into CC with your TAG/expensive HI/whatever and fuck it right in half.

    Yes there are a few things that can beat him in CC, and he just mows those down with a Spitfire. Most of those things fall over to a stiff breeze and arent ARM 6 with 3 W. 99% of the time Achilles murders anything he gets into CC with, in one order, no trouble.
     
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  13. Wizzy

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    New pictures for Beyond.

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  14. Modock

    Modock Well-Known Member

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    Nice, those look really good. Well done CB.
     
  15. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    Oh, I’m not disagreeing that it was a good change at the time.
    I’m saying that the game has evolved constantly since then and it’s not as clear cut as it was that specialists aren’t supposed to be effective combatants.
     
  16. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It's off topic but I agree about CC. I would like them to get rid of Martial Arts all together and just do CC dmg (+1), Burst (+1). Make it like shooting but in base to base. Also bring down the CC stats due to adding burst.
    Example:
    Shaolin monk CC16, CC dmg (+2), B3
    vs
    Fusilier CC 12, B1
     
  17. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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    Any idea if there will be a live video of the seminar by an attendee?
     
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  18. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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  19. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting that ITS pack just for Bixie! Wow so cool!
     
  20. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    I don't know if it was in the video but at the seminar they confirmed

    1) Muyibs and Myrmidons will get a box once the C1 releases are complete

    2) Hero blisters will be Yara Haddad and Phoenix

    3) Now that HellLois is well enough to return to work he's going to start updating FAQs and the wiki

    4) The next ITS Season will begin some time in October
     
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