Hassassin WTF?! McMurrough is now in HB? Why? Bokhtar Parachutist with NCO makes sense now. Ayyar look cooler now. But how would Hidden Deployment work with Holo? Would he have it on when coming out of HD? Steel Phanlanx Ekdromoi gets a KHD and SMG. That's pretty cool. Makhai are ok. Need to think about them more. They Aggy is missing something or it's a double profile. It's more basic than I thought it would be. Some anit-CC measures but that's about it.
I wholeheartedly agree with Arkille1, Achilles feels underwhelming in n4 and this update doesn't do much for him. He's the faction poster boy and you barely see him fielded on the table anymore.
Underwhelming? AP Spitfire +1 DMG, BS15, Mimetism, 6-4, Lieutenant, Insane CC, ARM6/BTS6. What game are you playing?
You beat me to it! I have no idea why mcmurderface is in bahram. I’d love a story reason why but it just seems odd… Bokhtar and ayyar are indeed cooler now and make sense though I echo your sentiment here about hidden deployment and holo echo. Atlanta with hidden deployment… interesting. Mildly confused how this works without camo of some nature. Does make her even more useful though and her TR profile is still there. I kinda like the Aggy TAG but @Space Ranger is right; something’s missing. Not sure quite what but something’s not there. Achilles… poor Achilles. No Patroclus for a duo team, Unloved by most players now who favour other characters over him… damn. Alephs poster boy needs some love. I wouldn’t call him underwhelming but he’s not going to get taken over some other stuff in the army. Odd that the mini that exists is now relatively obsolete. Perhaps a resculpt is in the works? Pandora effectively replaces Thamyris too. Found that quite funny for some reason. Edit: Achilles remains a complete hose beast, his shooting and his CC is still excellent. I’d love him to be linkable with myrmidons (as in the Iliad they’re effectively his) but that may make him a little overpowered.
It was the Hassassins that were responsible for McMurrough being stuck in Doggo form, I assume the old man of the mountain had further plans for him
Achilles is a problem that most army can solve without too much trouble, and he had a poor transition from n3 to n4. He has now lost patroclus, a costly trick and not the best one, but it's still a trick less than before. There was already more effective way to play SP, and the news changes amplify that. I see people calling him a cc beast, I'll direct you to the profil of Ajax, that's a cc beast.
CC24, MA, EXP CCW DAM 18, and three wounds arm 6 to mitigate bad luck against other CC experts. If you don't think that's a CC beast, you've never played Infinity.
In the land of berserker and natural born warrior and other goodies like those? I call that a model that don't want to cross true melee master usually costing 2/3 of its point.
And just look the digger 14pt he can wreck achilles on a lucky dice roll ^^' or even the example given by arkille armand etc. Achille or myrmidons with NBW was the things that could make them really cool. And yeah achille is scarry but when you see his cost ... meh.
You guys are hilarious. If the Digger attacks Achiles, he's 34% to wound, 42% to get wounded, 38% to go unconscious immediately. His odds of one-shotting Achiles are 1.17%. If Achiles attacks the Digger, which is what a CC expert wants to be doing, Digger is now only 20% to wound Achiles, 59% to get wounded, 53% to go straight to unconscious. That's Achiles against a unit with the skill specifically intended to be a counter to CC experts, and he still dominates thanks to his ability to soak up bad luck. You can't expect better than that in CC, which is an inherently swingy mechanic in Infinity. "Achiles isn't a CC beast" is one of the most absurd claims I've heard on these forums.
digger 14pt CC AP burst 2 NBW 14 damage. Against achilles 60pt CC 24 Expl ccw PH 15 Martial art 4 not used in actif the digger can in two order burst achilles ^^' The one shooting yeah is really hard to get but you only need 2 order and this guy can duo in a lot of army .... So Burst 3 damage 15..... And i do math but the digger have 45% of doing minimum 1 damage in active and achille only have 28% to do 1 damage. In reactive 29% and achilles 45% doing minimum 1 damage. Achille want to shoot him. But for 60pt he is really costy and a allrounder when you compare him to other HI..... Achille CC b+1 or nbw would have been cool is profil is really n3 savour.
A fusilier can also kill an Avatar in a single order by shooting. It's not about the damage potential, it's about the chance of doing it. Achilles is perfectly fine, he's one of the better troopers in the game. He has one of the highest CC in the game, one of the highest BS in the game, is one of the most mobile trooper in the game, has an incredibly relevant weapon / ammo type, he's one of the most survivable trooper in the game (3W and 6/6 ARM/BTS, PH15). (Do you start to see a trend here?) He didn't even need the buff they just gave him, lol.
I hope that’s what it means or else the rules would represent her tripping over her own feet… Agreed. He’s a damn beast which is pretty much the point of him fluff wise. I just feel sorry for him though. He’s lost the duo with Patroclus (loads of fun shenanigans were had in our game group with this) and the amount of hate he’s getting is rather astounding. I haven’t seen him get taken a lot in N4 lists over other characters which is a shame. I also miss the multi rifle as it was a great sculpt. Oh well. Guess “hate for Achilles” was in Pandora’s box. I was really counting on it being hope that was left in there. Can confirm as absolutely true. Sometimes the dice gods giveth and then taketh away… seriously, the one time I use the avatar and it gets downed by a fusilier in link with hmg. I was mildly upset.
Nice! Pick one up for yourself if you haven’t already! I missed out, real life got in the way. Incidentally does anyone know when the Corvus belli Black Friday event is this year? I’ll grab mine then and I know a few other people who will too.
