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Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Sword_36, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Sword_36

    Sword_36 New Member

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    Hiho, in like a week or so I am going to play at a tournament with round 1: deadly dance, round 2: Highly classified and round 3: acquisition. So far I have just painted and build most of my minis, so this will probably be both my first time playing infinity as well as my first tournament. Thus I know I will probably get stomped a lot, but hey the tournament is advertised as beginner friendly so maybe there are more beginners. I have to make 2 lists and have put together one so far, I would really like some feedback to my list and some tips and tricks for tournaments or maybe even my list would be really helpful too. ^^



    GROUP 1: REGULAR 7, IRREGULAR 1, IMPETOUS 3

    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device), Combi Rifle+Light Smoke Grenade Launcher/Pistol, Knife. (0.5|13)
    KUANG SHI, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0|5)
    KUANG SHI, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0|5)
    KUANG SHI, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0|5)
    SHINOBU, Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0.5|47)
    HSIEN Lieutenant, HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2|61)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device), Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0|29)
    BOUNTY HUNTER, Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5|19)


    GROUP 2: REGULAR 4

    YĀN HUǑ, 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2|56)
    TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit), Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0|14)
    ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device), Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5|19)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater), Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0|27)

    Total: 6 SWC | 300 Points



    Code:

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    Also here's a list of the models I own : * Daofei (HMG) * Guilang (Multi Sniper Rifle) * Zhanying Imperial Agent (Breaker Combi Rifle) * ‎ Yan Huo (HRMC) * ‎ Imperial Agent, Crane Rank * ‎Kanren * ‎ Oniwaban Kitsune * ‎3 Zhanshi (Combi Rifle) * Zuyong Invincible, Terracotta Soldier (Combi Rifle) * Tiger Soldier (Hacker) * 2 Hsien Warrior (HMG) * 2 Ninja (Tactical Bow) * ‎4 Kuang Shi * ‎ Celestial Guard with KSCD * ‎Tokusetsu Kohei (Engineer) * ‎Tokusetsu Eisei (Doctor) * ‎2 Keisotsu * ‎Bao Troop * ‎4 mini Robots * ‎Kempetei * ‎Shikami * ‎2 Aragato Senkenbutai * ‎ Gui Feng * ‎Hac Tao * ‎Su Jian * ‎Raiden Seibutai * ‎ Knauf Outlaw Sniper * ‎2 Authorized Bounty Hunters

    So if anyone knows of a better list to use for this tournament using my models, feel free to help me out too, cause like i said, total beginner here >_<
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick tip; you've got 7 orders in the main group and a whole bunch of inactive models in your second group. There is very little reason to not move those models into the main group. You also have 1 Irregular and 1 Regular order above the 10 order group stopper and you have unreliable smoke deployment methods (unless you sacrifice Kuang Shi to do it - but you haven't quite got enough hackers to make use of the repeaters this makes)
     
  3. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    In tournements you can in theorhy go with two list, i should advice you yo focus this one for deadly dance.

    Maybe against tags you could swap the hsien for a second Yuan Huo or a Su Jian ( with heavy shotgun) and with the points upgrade the guilang to hacker. The ninja having kitsune is a bit redundant, you could pick a second guilang with shotgun ( a perfect and cheap anty camo and anty tag troop). And maybe consider picking two zhansis to play with hidden leutinent.

    Pd:consider moving all irregulars to group two and make group ond close to 10 regulars
     
  4. Sword_36

    Sword_36 New Member

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    yeah i was thinking of moving stuff to the first group, and maybe even only make 1 group at all cause that would prevent me from losing 2 orders going first(or second? like i said newbie here)

    Problem is i dont own a second yan huo or guilang, also having no msv2 kinda makes me nervous since i read a lot of list use smoke shenanigans

    EDIT: Also, i have the ninja to use against enemy hackers and the shinobu against enemy tags and/or cheerleaders, but if that is not an efficient way to go at it?
     
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  5. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    There is a second Yuan Huo in your own model list xD. I know, i feel the same about going without visor. I supouse you don't own any s4 remote no? The tipical option is to peak a cheap Rui SHi (20 points 1 SWC). If you can pick it swap the Hsien for a Heavy shotgun Su Jian ( no swc cost and can kill tag very fast) and a Rui Shi to deal with camos.

    Anyway my only advice is earn points and play hidden leutinent ( maybe insted of the ninja). But is up to you, i usually play with only one infiltrator but thats beacuse i like to go with 3-4 ips in every list xD

    Pd: i don't dislike the Hsien, is just i had bad expirience when my own Hsien faced tags ( don't know why most tournements i face the Avatar xD)
     
  6. Sword_36

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    nope, no second in there ;P

    and yeah i got no remotes, and yeah i guess i'll have to go build/paint a second zhanshi or so D': even though i wanted to start painting my dao fei >_<
    also i dont know if i would actually use the hsien against tags that much, i would probably just let him kill anything else thats dangerous or wants to score points xD
     
  7. Sword_36

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    Ok, so i played around with a few ideas, and what do you guys think about this list for the Highly Classified and Deadly Dance missions, i should have enough specialists and special stuff to deal with the different classified objectives, enough points on a few models to claim the zone in deadly dance, and the kanren can maybe even fuck up a tag or so, i hope xD

    Any thoughts on this?

    ITS Test List 2 - Highly Classified/Deadly Dance
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    GROUP 1 10 / 3
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
    SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 54)
    DÀOFĚI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 55)
    KǍNRÈN Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 29)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

    GROUP 23
    TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  8. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Not bad, but if you swap the forward observer zhansi to a normal one you can hide who your leutinent is. Of you play against someone not used to Yu Jing it won't be a problem. But for example, if my habitual opponents saw just a normal zhansi alone they will know its the leutinent. Or you can make daofei leutinent and let this solitary zhansi to bait fidays xD

    I know i'm a bit repetitive but i learned in tournements that some people is veteran enought to read your list very fast
     
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    Sword_36 New Member

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    ah ok, but even if one is a forward observer, doesnt my opponent still have to guess which of the zhanshis is the observer and which the LT? or do i have to tell him at the start of the match which one is the forward observer zhanshi?
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    You have to identify which model is which and what they have when you deploy them. If your opponent forgets and asks, you also have to respond truthfully.
     
  11. Sword_36

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    ah ok, well in that case, i'll field the normal Zhanshi profile instead of the FO, oh yeah, what do you recon i should deploy my holoecho kanren as? maybe as extra Kuang shi or Zhanshi?
     
  12. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Deppen, if you need to trick your opponent you should deploy it as zhansi in your deploy zone (if you deploy 3 zhansis in mid field they will notice that probably are fake ones).
     
  13. LuAn

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    Hi all,

    In 2 weeks time I'm attending the Interbavario as Vanilla Yu Jing.
    I'm stuck when it comes to building lists, I always create the kind of the same, around my favourite units.
    Therefore, I'm looking for some feedback / critique.

    Missions:
    Runde 1: Supremacy
    Runde 2: Rescue
    Runde 3: Highly Classified
    Runde 4: Transmission Matrix
    Runde 5: Acquisition

    List 1 for Classified & Transmission:
    [​IMG] L1V1
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]8
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    2 SWC | 300 Points

    Open in Infinity Army


    List 2 for Supremacy & Rescue
    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)
    [​IMG] HAC TAO (Executive Order) HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 69)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)

    5 SWC | 298 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    Or without HacTao plus Zuyong and Husong: Open in Infinity Army
    Or without Ruishi plus Guilang: Open in Infinity Army
     
  14. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Don't know if i'm late to give advice but here we go xd:

    The first list os fine, in my opinion maybe 2 ninjas + 2 guilangs is a bit too much and you could aford some hmg to have an alternative to rui shi/lu dan. The list can go but if you face some strong fire power sectorials like pano's ones, aleph or some CA Rui Shi won't be enought. Anyway classificed is about protecting your htv, some zone control will help ( mineslayer, madtraps, a total reaction etc)

    The second list have a problem, in my opinion too much heavy dude and not too many orders. Tiger ninja in group 2 alone are a bit wierd, you won't be able to use them insted you get someone of group 1 killed and Hac Tao/ Su Jian won't die easy. Maybe you can keep the ninja and go in only one group ( it work fine if you have enought heavy dudes and you focus on getting htvs), or swap Su Jian or Hac Tao for more orders to reach more or less 14-15 with both groups.

    For example:

    [​IMG] Something like this──────────────────────────────────────────────────GRUPO 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG] HAC TAO (Orden Ejecutiva) Ametralladora, Nanopulser / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (2 | 69)[​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 20)[​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Observ. de Artillería y Repetidor de Posición) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 27)[​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 15)[​IMG] YÁOZĂO Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] MECA-INGENIERO Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 15)[​IMG] ZHANSHI Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 11)[​IMG] ZHANSHI Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 11)[​IMG] Yaókòng CHAĪYÌ Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)[​IMG] PANGGULING (Barreminas, Repetidor) Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)[​IMG] PANGGULING (Barreminas, Repetidor) Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)GRUPO 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2[​IMG] SOLDADO TIGRE Fusil Combi + Lanzallamas Lig. / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 27)[​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Disp. Hacker Asesino) Arco Táctico / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Cuchillo. (0 | 29)[​IMG] Yaókòng HÙSÒNG Ametralladora / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 25)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL (Disp. Control de Kuang Shi) Fusil Combi + Lanzagranadas Lig. Humo / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 13)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)[​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 5) 4.5 CAP | 299 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army

    Not my best list but now the group 2 is worth with a tiger ninja with enought orders to do something and an emergency hmg on a total reaction bot. Not getting at 6 SWC is a problem but ninjas guilangs and tigers cost too much. If you feel confident swap one of these 3 for some HMG IP ( tiger is the less usfull un rescue beacuse he don't have multy terrain and combat jump at the same time :S). The other "problem" is the lack of AP. If you face a heavy tag such as Marut/Avatar/jotum/cutter, your best option will be CC with the Shaolin/ninja or ignore them and focus on their order pool.
     
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  15. LuAn

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    Thanks krossaks, much appreciated.

    Yeah the list definitely need some work. The recent "what is yu jing great at" thread helped a lot.
    Also considering switching to ISS, but then I always miss so many favorite pieces and I am not that competitive.

    L1 will remove the remotes, no idea what i was thinking there to include them for transmission matrix.

    For Supremacy & Rescue, I am now thinking this:
    HacTao because he is a reliable murderer, SuJian because he can get those Civ's.
    The rest just to cover.

    [​IMG] L2.V5
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)
    [​IMG] HAC TAO (Executive Order) HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 69)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    or maybe this

    [​IMG] L2.V5
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)
    [​IMG] HAC TAO (Executive Order) HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 69)
    [​IMG] WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
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    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    The first one look good, if you don't mind going 10 orders against what he/she could deploy. I think rescue has some exclusion zone, thats and advantage because you should be able to take one civilian without facing mines flamtrowers etc. But ninja guilang ( i suspect both are you most liked troops) have multiterrain to, thats why i suggested to swap the Su Jian ( is your best rescue troop but at same time the expensive).
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    L2.V5.1
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Lanzallamas Lig. Panzerfaust / Pistola Pesada, Cuchillo. (2 | 59)[​IMG] HAC TAO (Orden Ejecutiva) Ametralladora, Nanopulser / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (2 | 69)[​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Minador) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 26)[​IMG] AGENTE IMPERIAL FAISÁN (Cadena de Mando, Visor X) Fusil Combi, E/Mitter, MadTraps / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (0 | 36)[​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Disp. Hacker Asesino) Arco Táctico / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Cuchillo. (0 | 29)[​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Disp. Hacker Asesino) Arco Táctico / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Cuchillo. (0 | 29)[​IMG] Yaókòng HÙSÒNG Ametralladora / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 25)[​IMG] ZHANSHI Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 11)[​IMG] Yaókòng CHAĪYÌ Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)[​IMG] PANGGULING (Barreminas, Repetidor) Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8) 5.5 CAP | 300 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army
    What do you think about this list? You lose one guilang for a pheasant CoC in case Hac Tao get a critic and madtraps that can cover your own zone plus i put the second guilang as a mineslayer to cover the second flank. Unfortunatly to get the points i have to downgrade a 16 points remote to a cheap 8 one. Ither idea to inprove should be picking a celestial guard with smoke, Hac Tao can cover half table ( killing the aro of the enemy) and the smoke the other half and help Su Jian getting in good range 20-60 cm with the spitfire. h
     
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  17. LuAn

    LuAn New Member

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    Hmmmmm, I think the pheasant is overpriced for his CoC, though he'd be another specialist.

    Maybe Zhanying instead? and then upgrade to Weibing again, keep the Pangguling for the Baggage for maybe double Madtraps?
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    Or rather Kanren instead of Zhanying, to deploy as additional Zanshi's for confusion?

    Is the Executive Order, i.e. LT order, on the Hac worth it? Or should the LT order never be used on him? Because if Pi-Well or any Antipodes get in range for Sensor he's toast.
     
  18. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    The Hac Tao leutinent is worth 100%, the free leutinent order provide a free recamo or supression fire every round. I tend to recamo it rther than supression fire but beacuse i don't like ot risk it, anyway in supression fire with llied models cover is a truly pain to remove for your oponent. I tend to use it on the first opportunity i saw even in tourn one, only doing hidden deployment if they go first, but don't worry about sensor, if a sensor arrive to your DZ the problem won't be just the hc tao x)

    With a CoC pheasant using the hac tao on supression fire is not that risky, without it you should only put in supression fire if you are sure your enemy don't have visors or some easy way to hack/burn it. But is up to you, pheasnt with mad traps + 8 point remote or kanren/eagle agent + weibing. Without knowing your oponent list both options are good. Phesnt has visor X for a better supression fire to but kanren has monofile and template and is cheaper.

    PS: I went to a torunement with Hac Tao Leutinent without CoC to go agressive and it was worth 2 of 3 games and only was an issue when it was crited two times by a TR remote.
     
  19. LuAn

    LuAn New Member

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    Alright, I'll probably take the CoC :D

    For the other list, how about this:
    [​IMG] L1.V3
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] MAJOR LUNAH Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] BÀO TROOP (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5 SWC | 299 Points

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  20. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    i susposo i'm late x), but i was thinking in somethign with high burst, Rui Shi insted of the bao or a Hmg Terrcota won't need to change too much form the list.

    I lvoe lunah, rembember that you cn use marksmanship X even in nimbus and other burst penalties zones to get the + 6
     
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