This is what I want Jing Qo will be - not that overpriced toolkit, that pays out her cost very rarely. So she will be my proxy. The downside is, that too much irregular profiles will eat up too many orders and we can only hope and speculate, that CB will give us a Hunter Mini at least so awesome like the TAG Raid one is.
If they make Beasthunter it will most likely be something generic designed to fit all factions. Same goes for Diggers and TAGs. Very sad to see such an amazing model as YJ Beasthunter being locked in another game but alas, what can we do. Good idea with Jing Qo as proxy, closes existing YJ miniature, and very rarely used as itself.
Agreed. JQ looks great but her rules are... I'm not sure. It's like they want her to do everything but ends up doing nothing.
I'll use the new Yuan Yuan for my proxy, until CB sees fit to drop a proper general release. She fills the pretty woman with big sword niche very nicely, and she's even wearing YJ armour. Just cut the wings and we're good.
Ah good point. Inspiring Leadership does seem like a nice combination with the Beasthunter in Vanilla PanO.
You might be able to just leave off the wing back. It's all one piece on the Fat YY and Bash Bozuk that use the same thing.
I used the Beasthunter yesterday. I actually attacked an Oniwaban. I got the hit, but somehow he made 3 damage 15 saves. Then he countered on his turn with Mushsashi. It was a game of him killing my stuff in CC. Kitsune killed half my core Shang Ji first turn. A Domaru killed my blue wolf, etc. I actually immobilized Yojimbo with Adil and killed a Domaru too! I was sad the beast hunter died but I need to learn to use him better. One thing I learned was to avoid taking on other CC specialist if possible. I didn't need to go after then Oni with him. I should have stuck to the mission but blood lust got the best of me. Edit: just a side thing. I'm really irritated that I've used the Shang Jesus several times now and he has yet to kill anything himself and has been killed every single time.
Yeah - I try it from time to time - at least in Mind Wipe because she has an AP-DA CCW that thing can hurt, when it hits. She started late (because it was hard to remove a sniper thread) and reached a server with her last order and luckily destroyed it. If she were a wildcard you could do a nice haris around her, but so she only can team up with a shaolin (or the more expensive Lian) wich will rob you of the impetious and the irregular order of the monk and makes you start with on order less in the combat group ... so she do better on her own. I think they should focus on one ability of her, so she is a good shooter BS13 multi with mimetism and good CC gal and a SO ... fine but for that cost you can not put her in a fireteam, she starts from your DZ wich makes her order inefficent. I tried her serveral times - most of this she archived nothing special. One time she killed Hippolyta (luck) and - see above - one time destroyed a server. It is never a good ideas to fight someone equal to you in infinity especialy not in CC were one roll can finish the settings. In the aboved mentioned scenario, as Qo destroyd the server, a morlok was tied to her, with his imp order he CC her ... they are almost equal, he rolled higher. Same as she killed Hippo, she rolled higher. You need NBW to withstand against high CC and MA troops, this is why the chimera and her pupniks are the best CC fighters in game.
Yeah the BH NBW made me a bit overzealous. If the Oni wasn't incredibly lucky things would have been different. Mushashi wouldn't have had burst 2 the same as the BH. Also, Adil was actually pretty good against Yojimbo. If going against another CC specialists, it's good to use the para CCW. Even a NBW can't negate that. Just for the hell of it, here's a video of the Chinese war sword in action. It's the sword Jing Qo, new Yuan Yuan, and the YJ beasthunter have. A little gross for me being vegetarian
By and large, even with NBW, you still want to be punching down. Fighting other CC specialists in their natural habitat should really only be a last resort. Adil(MI) and Taowu are some of the few exceptions, as they're able to stack so many negative modifiers that they really don't care who they're trashing, and actually can make for some very potent anti-CC fighters. Although Taowu really needs some fireteam options in ISS to even be worth seeing on the table.
Got a 3-round tournament early january and she'll definitely make it into my vanilla lists. At first I was going for a liberto, but fishmen are boring whereas monster hunters are flavorful and fun!
I've used the beast hunter twice and Digger once so far. The BH didn't do well because of me being a bad player and bad luck. Like a ARM0 guy making all three EXP saves luck. The Digger didn't do much but watch the back, which in a way is exactly what I wanted and I guess success then. What are peoples experiences so far? Has anyone use the Triphammer yet? Anyone roll up +4 ARM on Booty yet?
I really like the Beasthunter, despite mine copying my long yas ability to flubb any panzerfaust shot. On the other hand I have been able to use it in CC a few times and that has been fun.
So far, my few games with the Beasthunter, I just need to learn to chill and use the 'faust. She's ran headfirst into templates so far, her failing her save, them rolling well on theirs. Got a game with a Triphammer tonight with deployment prepped. We'll see how well it does, but with mimetism-6 any potential performance failures would be all my fault.
Anecdotes from this game: Beasthunter - I keep building her order starved. She managed to move forward and dodge a mine. Completely harmless. Digger #1 - Got ARM +1 and inflicted one wound each on two Dog-Faces before getting mauled by a Vet Kazak with a T2 Rifle. Mostly harmless. Digger #2 - Got DA CCW and managed to use it on an Antipode to decent effect. Mostly harmless. Triphammer - Got Mim-6 which did severely discourage a couple of shootouts. Did well in the role of "points for scoring behind a wall of ARM"
Actually sound better than mostly harmless. How many other 14pt troops would have done the same things?
