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The Joy of Invading Savage Planets: A Guide to the Onyx Contact Force

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by gamma ray, Nov 29, 2017.

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  1. Sergei Simonov

    Sergei Simonov Well-Known Member

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    Legit give us a downgraded anethematic without marker state but with FTO and boom, sectorial identity, worthwhile LT and good hacking, done
     
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  2. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I'd rather have the Pneumarch as a dedicated Lt profile with Mnemonica.
     
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  3. Morray

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    In the active turn? K1-MMR +1B +1D, backed up by a WIP13 engineer in haris.
     
  4. Child9

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    Yeah, there are really is worst gunfighters than that... :P
    Plus, that's ARM9 in cover and the Nexus engineer is part of the FT so it can easily afford to lose an unlucky FtF roll.
     
  5. Hecaton

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    I'm pretty sure that still loses to Grenzer or Kamau msr even if you can get within 24.
     
  6. Morray

    Morray Well-Known Member

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    That's a sniper though, thought we were talking gun fighters like Spitty or HMG heavy armour bro's? If you're struggling vs Sniper you sniper back with our super sniper :grin:

    It's funny I'm arguing for Onyx, I believe they need some help. I've got the full set of them painted (@morrayz > Twitter) But I have smashed people with the TAG link. They have also recieved some buffs this season in links and new extras.

    I just WISH we could get the Taighas, ohhhhhhh.
     
  7. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    And if you do that you lose. Have you done the math on that?
     
  8. psychoticstorm

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    If forum members really cannot engage in a conversation without sniping at each other, I would like to highlight the ignore function of the forum.
     
  9. Morray

    Morray Well-Known Member

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    The maths for the Unidron sniper in active turn with Assisted fire?...B3, BS17? Vs Grenzer on B2 BS19, We have better odds, you've also got the added bonus of probably surviving to go again if you lose round 1.

    Vs Kamau B3, BS14 Vs Kamau on B2 BS16 again we're odds on.

    Is this about me and Hacaton? I didn't realise we were being mean...It's just a debate mate :thinking_face: Or are you making a joke about snipers? If so touché.
     
  10. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I can't calculate it exactly because I don't think the dice calculator currently handles plasma ammo, but in both cases the odds favor the non-Unidron sniper.
     
  11. Morray

    Morray Well-Known Member

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    Mmm it's not as black and white as I expected, think this is because of DA ammo, but my basic maths brain tells me the Unidron hits more but is less likely to wound more...3 dice over 2 dice trumps a 10% advantage.

    Odds calculator doesn't do Plasma but it does calculate odds of doing 2 wounds which is needed to either knock the Unidron or wipe the other.

    Maths.

    Unidron Vs Grenzer/Kamau both linked Unidron with assisted fire 2 wounds odds

    Unidron wins inflicting 2 wounds = Grenzer removed
    37.49%
    Grenzer wins inflicting 2 wounds = Unidron Unconscious Level 2
    28.10%

    Kamau
    Unidron wins inflicting 2 wounds = Kamau removed
    37.48%
    Kamau wins inflicting 2 wounds = Unidron Unconscious Level 2
    28.8%

    I don't understand why I can't see single wounds stats though...
     
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  12. Phototoxin

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    Is it worth playing OCF if I'm not using link teams? I find it hard to fit in all the specialists and tools i feel that i need.
     
  13. SpectralOwl

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    Typically you're better off with a Vanilla faction if you're not using link teams, unless the Sectorial has another unique feature you can plan around such as improved AVA on pieces key to your plan or profiles not found elsewhere.
     
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  14. Phototoxin

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    I'm kind of just wondering if i need to rethink my whole approach as for the models i need to update my collection (there's only 1 nexus mini?!) i could just do a different army. :-/

    It looks like NCA are getting models again soon tho no ulHans(Blix)
     
  15. tox

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    I use the Pneumarch model as second Nexus.

    IMHO the main advantage of Onix over vanilla are the TAG/Umbra fireteam. And the Plasma Sniper rifles.
     
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  16. Time Bandit

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    Remember that you can proxy to your heart's delight. Personally, I use Shasvaasti Cadmus models as my nexus. Onyx is very fireteam oriented, it's true, and it has access to core plus two harises, which is very rare. It has a great roster of characters. Its biggest weakness is very few CC specialists, and the ones you have are super expensive. Onyx is one of only 6 armies not to have access to cheap warband-like units, and it's a big issue for them (the others being OSS, Invincible Army, Spiral since they removed diggers, NCA and SAA).
     
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  17. Child9

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    As someone else said, the Pneumarch makes a great Nexus.
    The character Kerr-Nau is also a Nexus.
     
  18. Doppelgganger

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    Nexus is a great nexus (they still in store)
     
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