Situation: A Fusilier fireteam is far too close to a Gaki after having lost a member to a Berserk and decides to move out of the way and then shoot the Gaki. During resolution step, the Gaki is knocked Unconscious and explodes, placing a template that doesn't touch any of the Fusiliers - but it does touch 3 of the Fusiliers in their starting position! For regular skill declaration sequence this is a no-brainer. If the Gaki had a regular DTW, it would hit all of those Fusiliers under the template regardless of whether the movement or the DTW attack was declared first, and anyone Fusilier foolish or forced to move into the template would also be hit. Explode still happens inside the same Order, but at the end of the Resolution step. Basically "Does All at Once still apply to movement after rolls have been made?" As far as I can tell, as written All at Once should still apply meaning that it could get difficult to place the template at all if moving more than one unit together (looking at you, Kuang Shi) with the exploding unit and also very potent at hitting enemies (The dodges, they do nothing!). Am I missing a limiting factor here? (Obviously, since the explosion happens after effects of rolls have been made, trooper that are rendered Dead will have been removed from the table and the effects of Dodge rolls will have already been made - the necessary language to make quantum-dodges of Explode from previous edition(s) is gone.)
IIRC last edition it used to function purely as an endstep thing that happened post dodge movement etc. Is there anything in the wording that would change that?
I don't think that was ever clarified. IJW did clarify that the Dodge roll would not be useful against the Dodge in N3 as opposed to N2, but I don't remember seeing the issue of movement and all at once having been brought up before. N3 was an edition where a Dodge movement during resolution could trigger a mine that would automatically miss the Dodging trooper, remember?
No, that's not what I was looking for, but it is good to point out all the same. Does lend some credibility to that Explode will work with All At Once exactly like any other DTW
I believe it was clarified that the final position of the trooper mattered. The Dodge couldn't oppose the explode, but if the trooper dodge far away enough that they weren't under the template when the Kuang Shi or whatever exploded then it wasn't attacked by the explosion in the first place. But this was off old forums stuff that I can't verify anymore.
Try it again. If you performed a (successful) Dodge during the order, you are not affected by the Explode template wherever you are. See above
I might've gotten this wrong, but: the Fusiliers move away (MOVE), the Ghaki declares Dodge (ARO) and then the Fusiliers declare Shoot (SHOOT). In Resolution, the Ghaki does not make its Dodge and goes unconscious. After Resolution, all troops stand where they stand as the Ghaki explodes with no targets within ITW range. If the Ghaki succeeded at his dodge, he wouldn't have exploded. To me, the bit about "at the end of an Order" means "after All At Once when all rolls and repositioning are done".
