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Rescue Double Gecko

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by T. Rex Pushups, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    So I have a limited insertion tournament coming up and I was thinking the Zero-G on the Geckos would be very handy in a mission where the middle of the board is difficult terrain and a saturation zone.

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    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SPEKTR Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    [​IMG] STEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
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    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
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    So my big question is if I should proxy the MK12 Gecko as double combi? In the saturation zone getting dropped down to burst 2 seems rough.
     
  2. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    The only time you would should another double combi is if the first is disabled, but you shoot a MK12 every time you need the range. I think having the MK12 is still more useful.
     
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  3. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    As for the rest of the list I was hoping I covered most of my bases while still giving myself a good amount of multi-terrain troops with marker state for rushing the civilians.

    Anything jump out as a bad idea or a huge glaring weakness?
     
  4. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I hadn't actually looked at the list. You aren't hoping to duo them are you?
     
  5. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Gecko seems OK, but keep in mind rescue is a really order-intensive mission. You've only got ten orders to work with. If you use any of the toys you brought (AHD, HD+, Smoke & MSV2) you're liable to mess up your pace and not rescue enough civilians to win. I think you ought to be laser-focused on a list that can rescue dudes. Bran do Castro and smoke could be a good start.

    Also, as Loricus said, you can't duo them without an EVO (big waste!) and even if you went to the trouble, they can't be linked with civilians in tow.
     
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  6. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Goodness no.

    I just noticed they can ignore the terrain issue and being big tough models with 3 wounds hopefully manage to fight their way to the civilians and get them back to my side of the table.

    The other thing they can be used for is mobile LOF blockers while the zeros and the spektr grab civilians. The AHD is most likely to be used as an ARO surprise if any HI, Tags, or remotes are unfortunate enough to stumble into my hacking range.
     
  7. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    I'm worried you might be overestimating how much you can do each turn. Rescue is the kind of mission where it can easily take all ten of your orders to get someone with multi-terrain across the board, synch a civilian, and get somewhere safe-ish. I think if you want to be successful, you have to start on that right from the get-go - there's just no time to advance the geckos, set them up, then move folks in behind them.

    I have to keep talking up monkey man for this one. This is like, his mission.
     
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  8. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    I get that it takes 3 orders just to get to and sync civie assuming a direct path and no resistance.

    Naturally anything that has to blow an order at the edge of the zone is in even worse shape. If I get lucky I might be able to use some coordinated orders to get into position to start grabbing some civies.
     
  9. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    I have an upcoming match of rescue in our local league. For that one I am running Bakunin, but I would still run Bran in vanilla. He just had all the tools. Morlock smoke lgl for 14 points should not be overlooked in this one. It’s rescue, you will have the SWC and the free order helps.

    I’d also be mindful of including specialists that can get caught in repeater nets or other hacker zoc’s, if you plan on using them to sync with civilians.

    If you want to move a beefcake up the board, I would consider the Kriza HMG. Yes, one less wound, but it has the burst, range and modstacks to clear TR bots and snipers without losing tempo.
     
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  10. reaper1714

    reaper1714 Annoying genocidal machine

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    For the price of a gecko you've got a nice and handsome tough guy with multiterrain, two wounds and Burst+1 in active called Kriza (aka Prizza, because he's as good as Pizza) that I think could be good addition to your list.
    And you have enough SWC already.

    At Burst+1 he's going to be king in the center table if coupled with an HMG. Saturation zone you said? Your HMG is only burst 3? Sooo bad... let me grab 4 dices...

    I also agree with what others have said... Brando is much more effective in this mission due to his superior infiltration and you can easily swap the spektr for it
     
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  11. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Do you recommend the specialist Bran for this mission or is it too unlikely that I could sync multiple civies?
     
  12. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    I’d probably go for it myself, on the off chance that you find yourself in a position where you have the orders and position to sync two of them and get to a safe place. But as you say, it’s pretty unlikely.
     
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  13. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    So I listened to some of the advice in the thread( I really want to use the Geckos and I am waiting on the Kriza to get released as a stand-alone model)

    So I am going to take advantage of the proxy rules and use my Spektr model as Bran Do Castro and my Jaguar as a Morlock.

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    Double Gecko Rescue v2
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    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] BRAN DO CASTRO (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 14)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) 4 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
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  14. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    You might not need a clockmaker. The knife cuts both ways with orders on Rescue, so unless someone AROs with a blitzen you won't run much risk of E/M on the Geckos. It could be a good opportunity to upgrade a Zero to a Prowler or a Bandit.
     
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    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    I like the addition of the Krakot. Good luck running the list!
     
  16. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Planning on making one of the Geckos my data tracker. Being able to fix it is super tempting.

    Also I am tempted to change the zero KHD into either a deplorable repeater or a second minelayer Zero

    Is that stronger? If I do that what should I do with the 2 points that get freed up?
     
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  17. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    With two tags and a hacker Lt, I would definitely keep the zero KHD.
     
  18. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Should I swap the minelayer for the deployable repeater zero?
     
  19. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what you are planning on using the deployable repeater for. They’re both fine choices in my book.
     
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  20. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    1. White Noise protection if MSV ARO becomes scary
    2. Stay away from my TAGs/ ARO to keep them from acting up if they get possessed
    3. Making life hard for Pain Train users who want to get to their civies.
    But the minelayer would be great at eating up enemy orders and protecting against AD troops on one side.
     
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