Ok I didn't start this thread with the intention of causing an argument and contradiction, honestly hadn't even thought of the ramifications, but bear with me here: If we take this ruling where it counts for AVA then we need to basically build and submit illegal army list that only works for some missions as the biker needs to be submitted with the list to avoid going over AVA, so OTM needs to able to accept 11 man combat groups with 16 model limits. This also means players deciding to utilise this rule lock themselves into an issue where they may be locked out of using lists for each mission at an event. This seems like a bad idea. Was the intent of the rule to basically add a bike to each army for free as a 16th member in certain missions? Are we supposed to submit lists with this in mind or are you supposed to just put an extra model on the table when you get to a certain mission?
This is what I assumed after first reading the posts on Facebook. Anything else just seems to add problems.
Yeah I have no intention of being a pedantic idiot over wording matching RAW, given understanding what the intent behind the rule was it's easy enough for me to TO missions with it.
This seems to be pretty consistent with the ITS seasons, there's these additions that seemed like they were analyzed in the "Wouldn't it be cool...!" step and not given any more thought other than that. Do they just ignore feedback from WarCors? Because I haven't heard anything good from them about this either.
You can use the Defiance ones. In the tournament pack Fiddler have two jackbots, that you can use it like turrets, and also we are going to update the ITS Tokens PDF with Turrets tokens.
That is is nice base, the rather bland weapon can be replaced with a Monstrous Makings´ Combi to make it more detailed as well.
STOP THE MACHINE! I made a mistake (yep, im human) It doesent count for AVA. We will add that profile in the Army that take all tha considerations (no cost, no combat limit and the AVA) so there were not problem. Sorry for the inconvenients.
Sooo.. does the MBH from Bike Recon, contribute to the order pool? Can Pano now get another regular order, by having Jean and a free MBH?
Doesn't say anywhere that they don't generate orders as normal, so probably? Can't really begrudge Pan-O an extra order in a combat group when shit like IA is rolling around running 15 orders through a single link team tbh.
Irregular orders do not go to the order pool, but with Joan the order will be converted to regular and it will go to the pool.
