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[Official Announcement] Injected Thermoplastic miniatures

Discussion in 'News' started by Koni, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Not looking too hot indeed. That's going to need a lot of cleaning up compared to their current sculpts.
     
  2. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    Here's the video those stills are from:
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    Mold lines are annoying but are workable. My biggest concern is the holes and flash in crevices.
     
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  3. Daireann

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    I just hope, that promises about metal S2 miniatures (that they would stay metal) are true.
    I would take tags and rems from friends for a game If I can’t find them in metal.

    And please, NO resin. This material can’t be trusted and during hot summer it is terrible (it was only +30 maximum this year, but it could be worse). I hope you understand, that melted miniature isn’t what we want)
     
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  4. Deus Kalsa

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    Sino Cast Miniatures are not fun,
    they are quite to soft.

    Not Sandable, not Knife Friendly.

    Not so bad like the crap PVC from PP and there bad resin. Nor the PVC from Mantic.

    But the shown models looks like junk.
    I don't pay for this crap and will send back every box in this condition
     
  5. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    If you are concerned models from this material will melt in a hot summer, you should not be concerned.
     
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  6. Koin-Koin

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    So far, nothing I already met with the actual metal (even worse on my Maggie).
     
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  7. Nuada Airgetlam

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    Nasty mold lines across detail and geometry, inside detail grooves, holes, mold slips and this weird "melted bubbly stuff" next to the REM's head seems to be a "feature" because it's present also on this guy's piece, third picture.

    This has me hugely concerned for the Bearpode, which I will now not preorder and will not buy without seeing reviews or another person's copy first. The fact that Carlos said they tested this on S2 minis and were so happy with quality has me shivering with fear that down the road CB will do away with their metal completely. I will definitely stop collecting Infinity then.
     
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  8. LaughinGod

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    I am more interested in knowing how does Vostok reload that MK12 magazine than anything else from that video.
    Judgements of quality I will make once I have the product in hand. Even if it doesn't look perfect in the video, maybe it is an early production model or something, I am sure CB will improve quality once they master this tech.
     
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  9. psychoticstorm

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    Quality can only improve, it is like comparing current era 3D sculpts to the O Yoroi.
     
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  10. AmPm

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    We already know CB don't know how guns work. So this is pretty much a standard complaint.

    But good lord this material looks awful.
     
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  11. Nuada Airgetlam

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    What are you talking about. This is a literal final example of the technology, this is what we will buy as Vostoks and in upcoming TAG / REM / Beast packs. For it to improve like "O-Yoroi to 3D sculpt" they'd have to go back to metal casting and do something else on top of that.
     
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  12. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    The final example of the first model released for commercial release, you sound like the digital sculpts have not improved at all from the first digital sculpt that pioneered the technology, that was the O-Yoroi, or that the models casting has not improved at all, all these years.
     
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  13. AmPm

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    I think his point is that this is a release of a sub-par product that is worse than the previous metal models.

    So while yes there are growing pains, right now, this model quality is bad. It could be good in the future but I doubt they are going to send out replacements when this shit gets fixed.
     
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  14. Lucian

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    See the hatch in the back? Tiny human comes out and changes mag. Too bad they didn't think of some kind of ammo belt to feed the gun.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. A Mão Esquerda

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    Seems like for better or worse CB wants to make it blindingly clear what weapon each REM is using. Hence the shift from the small Combi or HMG barrels on the OG Dronbots to the side mounted weapons on the new ones.
     
  16. AmPm

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    Well, in order to bring it's gun to bear it has to move it's entire body out of cover depending on side, and swivel it's entire body...

    At least it's soft plastic so easy to cut up so the model makes some sense?
     
  17. Nuada Airgetlam

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    AmPm is right, this is not a new technology that was immediately better than the previous (manual to 3D sculpted) and only got better with time.

    This is a huge step backwards.If I received a metal model from CB with faults like those I would fully expect it to be replaced.

    And now this is apparently going to be the new norm and the default level of quality for TAGs, REMs and Beasts? Utterly disappointing.
     
  18. Lucian

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    Sure. But would it be too hard to model the gun mount (could be even a standard issue mount, similar on every rem) in a way that gun just 'docks' in it, replacing mag with a clamp that supposedly feeds ammo as well? The rest of the gun model would be similar.
    And I agree with @AmPm that side mounted gun complicates a lot of things - targeting, recoil management, cover. In ideal situation you'd want to hide rem's body completely in cover and just peek out a bit with a top mounted gun. Or even mount it on something like a camera arm.
     
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  19. psychoticstorm

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    They tried that in previous editions of remotes, I think this is a design direction for visual key elements and silhouette, not "realistic" but gameplay "UI" based.
     
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  20. TheDiceAbide

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    We will be talking about the new Vostok tonight on stream. The summary of my experience with it is that it's fine. It's not better than pewter, but it's not worse. None of the mold lines on it, or other pictures iI've seen from other reviewers are any worse than what you expect to find on pewter miniatures.

    I think people were expecting the plastic to be better than pewter, while being cheaper, easier to produce, and will wash their laundry. I don't think CB ever said it would be better, they've sold it as a reasonable replacement for pewter, which it definitely is. I've attached my untouched photos to show it off, I tried to be sure to capture edge and flash which you can see in the picture. If this is the quality of their minis going forward, I'll be just as content as I am with pewters.

    vostok.jpeg
     
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