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N4: Druze Bayram Security

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by AmPm, Jul 20, 2021.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I only like that they are fairly cheap. Really I like the Al Faseed or Azra' il, Boyg to some extent, and makes more sense since they seem to get most troops and gear from Haqq or PanO.

    Something I'd like to see sprinkled through other NA2 forces is Spiral Troops. They are "working" as Mercs. They could be gathering intel for the Tohaa while working as Mercs.
     
  2. AmPm

    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see some sort of generic or Druze specific HI. Not that they will make new models, but when has that stopped CB from creating a new profile.
     
  3. Triumph

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    It's not even cheap. Compare the Ratnik to the Shang Ji and realise how badly optimised their shit is, let alone they're hackable in a faction with no hacking defenses what so ever. 50 points for a basic bitch BS13 HI that can't link at all is awful, and its stats including its accuracy degrade after it takes a wound.

    Shang Ji is point cheaper, carries an extra order, -6 Tinbot, and can go in whatever damn link it pleases in two sectorials.

    Vet Kazaks are cheaper, unhackable, and come with an AP HMG that can go in whatever damn link they please.

    The amount of bloat on the Ratniks is criminal, and whatever discount they get for battle ravaged fucking two really important stats in MOV and BS and their shit ass dodge (if they're even getting a discount that is) isn't even remotely enough to be considered fair. Not even giving them the option to go in a fireteam is just the dumb icing on the dumb cake.

    No joke these two HI are so shit I stone faced believe they should cost sub 30 points to be fair. It's not like they're spammable they cost SWC.
     
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  4. Space Ranger

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    Yeah they are but they are also in a faction with a bunch of cheap meat shields. Shang ji is not. Though that was more of an issue before the 15 cap. I can't put in like my YY in Ikari anymore. I loved those little fat guys! :disappointed_relieved:
     
  5. AmPm

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    Azra'il for Druze now! lol

    Really, I just want to use my Azra'il models more.
     
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    Not that I think that point is even remotely relevant to the discussion, but uh.... Monks?
     
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  7. TheDiceAbide

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    I think the Boyg is the most interesting option to me, followed by the Ratnik. It doesn't overlap the other places you see Druze pop up, while at the same time doesn't really change the paradigm of the army, just gives a neat smashy tool. Another option would be a small amount of S2 HI, maybe just AVA1-3 Janissaries which can Haris and count as Brawlers for links (but not as Druze). That would give a unique tool for the army, without giving it anything over the top.

    I think the issue is that they're a competing mercenary company, so would really only show up in some of the conglomerates. Adding AVA1 Draal to Ikari or Dahshat would be very welcome though.
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Boygs don't really fit in terms of fluff though as they're a part of a top secret bleeding edge voodootech-derived project, not something a semi-criminal merc group is going to pick up on the black or grey markets.
     
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  9. TheDiceAbide

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    Totally fair, bring on the Ratnik! Any S5 HI is really superfluous, it's more of a fun choice than a practical one. A practical option would be Orcs or Janissaries, Janissaries might not be perfect, since their fluff doesn't lend towards being a mercenary. Orcs being known for favoring violent and aggressive actions might find their services more welcome in Druze than White Company.
     
  10. AmPm

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    Could do Mobile Brigada. They are pretty standard and really full the gap of hard to kill.
     
  11. kesharq

    kesharq Lucky Dice-Roller

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    I think I remember that Nomads ands Druze do not like each other due to some kind of DBS subjugating a Nomad worker detachment. But that's just fluff :)

    As HI, I would like to see the Al'Fasid as those disgraced soldiers fit well, or as some kind of pseudo-HI perhaps a Duo Odalisques - weren't there some pics in the Outrage Manga of some female courtisans bathing with the Druze Kingpin?
     
  12. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    the druze society "security division" don't have many friends period! the caledomians have them kill on sight because of their actions in the commercial wars.
    you hire them because they are the Krombopulous Michael (rick and morty reference) of PMCs and they don't play defense :P

    a snippet from the rpg
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  13. RolandTHTG

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    Huh. Could easily justify Tanko, WuMing, Al Fasid, or even a Kriza based off that list.
     
  14. Space Ranger

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    Since it's Off topic.
    And that's it. below is just the WB, they then have many other cheap guys that do a good job. YJ just doesn't.

    HIGHLANDER Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 5)
    CAMERONIAN Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol(+1B), Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 6)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    VARANGIAN Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 12)

    Druze do need something but I'm not exactly sure what. I'd like it if they made a new HI for them that can also be mercs for other forces. But they get more variety of them. However, it's unlikely to happen any time soon.
     
  15. AmPm

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    This is why I was pushing for an Azra'il with Druze Haris option.

    It's a unit that already works with them, has reason to turn merc, and is a bit different than the other NA2 options. Also, I love the models and have a nice pile of them...

    Come on, B4 continuous damage Feuerbachs!
     
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  16. Delta57Dash

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    No.

    The only reason the Azrail isn't absurdly broken is that it's a mediocre shooter. An ARM 8 TAG, in cover, has about a 1/6 chance to drop unconscious from a single hit. 2 hits pushes it close to 50%.

    Giving it fireteam bonuses would be a severe mistake.

    Letting Druze take it? Sure. Letting the deadliest gun in the game get fireteam bonuses by slapping 2 ABH with it? No.
     
  17. AmPm

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    Yea, but I can hope!

    It would it be ridiculous though. I really just want a gun platform and some durability in Druze. One day maybe...
     
  18. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    They could just as easily design an HI druze profile and the let people use whatever it convert which would be really cool and probably sell some models.

    Although CB need to get into the selling 3d bit market soon to cash in on that.
     
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  19. AmPm

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    That would make me so happy, I have an extra Druze kit just so I could use the heads to convert my QK models to make a "Druze" force out of them.
     
  20. TheDiceAbide

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    Yeah, Corregidor is kill on sight for Druze, sooo a mobile brigade wouldn't find many friends.

    Kriza is an interesting one... Just because Corregidor hates Druze doesn't mean Tunguska does. AVA 1, non-linkable Kriza would be something I'd be thrilled to add to my Druze, lol. I think Tank and Wu Ming would be stepping on Ikari's toes a bit, I think a unique option from other armies not featuring druze is better. The more I think about Orcs the more I like it.
     
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