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Anyone using Scots Guards?

Discussion in 'Ariadna' started by Stampysaur, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. Stampysaur

    Stampysaur Wallace is my LT

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    Specifically in Caledonia, but would be interested in hearing about vanilla use cases as well.

    I've always loved the models but I rarely get to use them. I have been trying it out a bit lately though and find the point cost is a bit too high for what I get. Anyone ever try the core?

    frequently I see myself looking at the camo SMG panzer profile but in the few games I have played it tends to trade down a little bit, especially with the proliferation of templates.
     
  2. mightymuffin

    mightymuffin Well-Known Member

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    Used them quite a bit in CHA under N3, both as solo camo pieces and as a core fireteam.

    Their camo load-outs are very handy, mainly the twin-SMGs and Molotok ones, with the ML as a bit of a "surprise", especially if your opponent is expecting a Cateran.

    As a core fireteam, I tend to go for 3 MLs, plus Marksman Rifle and twin-SMGs, and use them for ARO duty and area denial; especially if I'm facing TAGs, (who really don't like that many missiles!) However, that linked twin-SMG is an effective active turn shooter as well, and can destroy any attackers who make it to my deployment zone. Being FOs is also a nice benefit.

    Haven't played any N4 games yet, but their speed increase, and gaining Mimetism on all profiles must surely make them even more effective.
     
  3. Stampysaur

    Stampysaur Wallace is my LT

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    on N3 I could use them similarly.

    Unfortunately in n4 they also got a cost increase with all that. And I feel the proliferation templates has really decreased the effectiveness of an SMG. It will still kill something, but it also dies in return.
     
  4. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    not since N4. In N3 mostly 50% of my lists had a Scots fireteam
     
  5. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes in vanilla or kosmofloat as a camo missile launcher as an aro model or as a camo ap spitfire to go out and hunt other models not in a link.
     
  6. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    Camoed molotok was a nice attack piece when they infiltrate. Unfortunately, that time was left behind
     
  7. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    They're fairly solid for zone scoring missions, especially now they've got faster. The relative expense helps them score zones and their armaments are solid too
     
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  8. Stampysaur

    Stampysaur Wallace is my LT

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    That is a good point I hadn’t thought of.
     
  9. HotFreshTofu

    HotFreshTofu Well-Known Member

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    I have a bit of experience with them. They are the kind of unit you play because you like the feel of them and the look, not because you are trying to win tournaments.

    The core link + isobel was pretty fun and its good enough to get the job done, but not good enough to excel in any meaningful way.
     
  10. McKaptain

    McKaptain Well-Known Member

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    I see a substantial value in the 2nd battalion Missile launcher, especially in the new armor heavy meta. Careful deployment will have your opponent second guessing if it’s a cateran sniper or a SG missile they are about to eat.
     
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  11. Hansolo

    Hansolo Well-Known Member

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    In N3 times I loved to play Wallace + Scot ML + Scot Molotok + 2xScot FO (either SMG or/and Marksman Rifle). Durable, decent armor, can deliver a punch. Great alternative to usual "let's head on and kick everyone in the head" Caledonia gameplay.

    In N4 I've only used them in Haris with Unknown Ranger. Still, same advantages, plus bonus mimetism and faster movement. I like them.
     
  12. McKaptain

    McKaptain Well-Known Member

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    I could see that being an excellent Haris in Kosmoflot. Which two SG do you take with the UR?
     
  13. Hansolo

    Hansolo Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how many points I have to spare and what UR loadout I'm taking, but either SMG FO+AP Spitfire or SMG FO + Marksman Rifle FO.
     
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  14. deltakilo

    deltakilo Bear of Butcher bay
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    I used the Camo missile launcher in N3 very frequently to good success. Not sure of its value now, but people tended to assume Cateran so disrespect the threat of blasts which you can take advantage of.
     
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  15. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    Now that armored units are more common in the tables, Cateran strugles to wound, so ML is a good option, but too expensive...
     
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