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Sectorial Army Fireteam Overviews

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Tristan228, Jun 5, 2021.

  1. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Just list the Wildcards in a separate category?

    Invincible Army Wildcards
    Chung-Hee Jeong
    Krit Kokram FTO profiles
    Lei Gong
    Tai Sheng
    Qiang Gao
    Haidao
    Hulang FTO profiles
    Shang-Ji
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    And to be fair on you, when you started making those charts it made a lot more sense listing everything because Fireteams were a lot more restrictive in the sectorials you started with, with very little of this newfangled Wildcard nonsense.
     
  2. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Sooo, NA2 is now complete as well and Starmada got corrected.
    Well, that means the diarams won't be success in your community :wink:
    You're right. He shouldn't be even called a Wildcard Character then :face_with_rolling_eyes:
    Thanks for pointing out!
    Well, the Units' iconography can be seen literally everywhere thus I wouldn't call this a big obstacle. After all they have to remember which miniature represents the unit and its icon on the table anyways. With an exception for basic the Combined army Remotes. Those are hard to remember and I still can't tell one from another
     
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  3. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    Yeah, definitely just a convenient list of all the wildcards for each sectorial would be helpful, whatever the format.

    Also agree with @Space Ranger that making Wildcard a skill (and thus filterable in Army) would be a good way to achieve that. Also, generally I think that moving the fireteam composition rules out of the sectorial charts and into the main ruleset would be a positive change, and making Wildcard a skill would be a step in that direction.

    Feedback: I do find it a big obstacle to the legibility of the diagrams. I've been playing HB for 3 years, but I don't recognize most of the unit icons. To read the diagrams I have to cross-reference with Army, which kind of defeats the purpose. Printing the names at the bottom of each icon would go a long way.
     
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  4. Hachiman Taro

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    You wouldn't even need Wildcard to be a skill to be filterable in the skill column. Firetam (Core) isnt a skill but its there.

    Also Can fireteam with current selection under 'Characteristcs' as a filter in army would be cool and very useful.
     
  5. zapp

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    Great work, this does illustrate so very nice where the current problems with fireteams are. They also reveal problems in sectorial balancing. Corregidors huge wildcard bubble displays one reason why I think they are currently in a very good spot.
     
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  6. Abrilete

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    LOL, I love Tohaa's "Triad Bubble".
    Back in the day people used to think Tohaa's Triads were difficult to understand because they had so many possible ways to combine. Nowadays it's the simplest Fireteam.
     
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  7. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    The Imperial (Secret) Service and the Invincible Army are now available. For Mech.-Eng. Cheong-Hee's Logo I used the same blue hue the Jujaks got in their logo to emphasize his Korean origin (if I'm not totally wrong after reading Betrayal) :)

    Oh yes, and I finished the graphic for Kosmoflot. Ariadnan sectorials are nice and easy to do so expect the remaining one to be finished last since I'll use them after the Haqqislam sectorials and MAF as recreational work.
    Too much mixing and matching and therefore very similar fireteam builds in every sector.My personal preference is to have way more rigid fireteams (one LI, one MI and/or one HI core) with a maximum of three Wildcard troopers (max. 1 per fireteam) and a few troopers (e.g. Infinity Spec-Ops, Characters) able to join one or maybe two fireteams if they are no wildcards.
    I'm no madman so I created it to spare me the arrows between every Unit Logo (91 arrows!) :laughing:
     
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    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Qapu Khalqi, Ramah Taskforce and TAK were added. Both Haqq sectorials turned out to be not as confusing as expected - at least in comparision to MO or SWF :D

    And only three sectorials remaining: CHA, USARF and MAF!
     
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    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Well guys... that's it. With the graphics for MAF (on monday), CHA and USARF (just now) uploaded my project is finished. :blush:
     
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  10. Ugin

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    Huge thumbs up to this remarkable feat.
     
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    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Thanks mate! :)
     
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    Spiral Corps got updated to the latest Special Fireteam: Triad rule clarification.
     
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    The Motorized Bounty Hunters were added to ISS, OSS, DBS, Ikari, Dashit and Tunguska :)
     
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    Kwon So-Ra got added to the White Banner and the MBH was removed in Ikari due to AVA 1 and no FT: Duo permission there
     
  15. Magekiller

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    Don't get me wrong I love how you setup the pictures for the fireteams but, I know you have the team for Scareface wrong under the Druze. Scareface can only his sister or a brawler.
     
  16. Robock

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    That is both true and false. Scarface can do a Special Duo with Cordelia. Then any wildcard can be part of any fireteam of that sectorial, replacing either member as they both have the FT:Duo skill.

    The chart is still wrong, in that it missed the Scarface+Brawler Special Fireteam Duo.
     
  17. Tristan228

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    Thanks for that, I somehow didn't get that fireteam option
     
  18. calza27

    calza27 Cold-steel

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    Looking at Army, scarface doesn't ahve the fireteam: duo skill. Cordelia does. According to the sectorial cahrt for Druze, Cordelia is not listed as being able to form a fireteam duo, and scarface is only listed as being able to form his special fireteam (scarface + cordelia). Army also lists scarface as being able to from a special duo with a brawler.

    So I guess the question stands, can cordelia form a fireteam duo (with wildcards) as she has the fireteam duo "skill" listed in army, or can she not because it's not listed on the sectorial chart.
     
  19. Robock

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    You are correct. Scarface does not have Duo itself (I thought they both had it). So he can only be joined by a Wildcard unit that does have Duo.

    The rule for Wildcard is simply this :
    "When creating a Fireteam that includes Wildcard Troopers, the player must include at least one Trooper from the Units listed for that Fireteam in the Sectorial chart, or a Trooper that counts as a member of one of those Units."

    Since Scarface and Cordelia are both listed on the sectorial chart as being able to form a duo (well, a Special Duo); then the wildcard can be included in that Fireteam as long as you include at least one listed trooper (so include one of Scarface or Cordelia).

    The rule for Duo is simply that it allows the player to compose a two member fireteam. It is only required that one of the member must have the skill. So ABH+Scarface would work (as well as Arslan+Scarface) but other Wildcards can only go with Cordelia. That makes for a complicated chart!

    (The N3 rule for Wildcard also had that the member with the Duo/Haris had to be a listed trooper.)
     
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  20. calza27

    calza27 Cold-steel

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    Scarface doesn't have the duo skill, and isn't a wildcard, so AFAIK he himself cannot be apart of a fireteam, unless it is one of the specical fireteams mentioned in his profile. Scarface + Cordelia, or Scarface + Brawler. This is different to him being able to form a fireteam duo.

    Where wildcards can come into play, is if you were to form a duo with Cordelia and a wildacard unit. But that wuold be Cordelia + (1 of.) Clipper, Valerya, Wolffgang, ABH, or Arslan
     
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