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Chaksa Longarms for Starmada

Discussion in 'O-12' started by D_acolyte, Apr 26, 2021.

  1. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    Sorry, missed that part. Just had a proper look through of the SC triads and yes that would make significant difference. Hopefully they revise that when they roll them out to the other factions.
     
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  2. Phayton

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    Well, for a Starmada player this might be a good opportunity to paint an alien model and use it as a Holomask for Cho :-D
     
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  3. miguelbarbo84

    miguelbarbo84 Well-Known Member

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    And use Cho as a Holomask for Tian Gou.

    M-M-M-M-MIND GAMES

    And not much more
     
  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Heh. Still need to establish reasonable doubt, I'm afraid, and that means playing real Chaksa a bunch before trying this, I'm afraid.
     
  5. Mogra

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    Today should be the army update
     
  6. Delta57Dash

    Delta57Dash Well-Known Member

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    Army updated; 0 changes to their profiles.

    Also they have AVA 4 in all the new sectorials. They are only AVA 3 in Spiral Corps.

    This whole thing smells like poor planning.
     
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  7. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    Not disagreeing. I read this as a bandage on Starmada and an attempt to sell to more factions for others. This makes me sad, I think the long arms are almost playable for Spiral and only thing stopping them is there fire teams. In Spiral if they could link with Auxiliar, Brawlers or had fire team triad I think they would see play. In Starmada the are just clunky right now.
     
  8. Space Ranger

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    I've been looking at them for White Company and saw they can make some interesting Haris in Starmada. The basic 22pt guy is great for getting a specialist or gun across the board as a body guard. Nyoka are about the same I guess but these guys bioimmune with ARM3

    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    TIAN GǑU 1st Section (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)

    0 SWC | 67 Points

    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    PSI-COp (Multispectral Visor L1) Nanopulser(+1B), MULTI Marksman Rifle ( ) / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)

    0 SWC | 69 Points

    Or deliver CC types

    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    SHONA CARANO Submachine Gun, Nanopulser(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 27)

    0 SWC | 71 Points
     
  9. Triumph

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    Psi Cops and Long Arms mix pretty decently for Starmada in general and can provide a mix of solid Haris teams, including using the Autocannon as a pointman if you wanted.
     
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  10. Space Ranger

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    This isn't too bad for TAG hunting. Burst 2 E/M grenades is never bad.

    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    CHAKSA LONGARM Combi Rifle, Pulzar(+1B), E/M Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    PSI-COp (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) ( ) / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24)

    0.5 SWC | 68 Points
     
  11. Triumph

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    It's a mixed bag. It's pretty pointless for WhiteCo and Bakunin. Bakunin's lack of viable wildcards rules them out while WhiteCo doesn't really care when they're arguing with Kaplan and Jujaks for the same points bracket are less flexible as a baseline link.

    Meanwhile Starmada can get decent mileage out of them due to few competing Haris options in their point range and Psi-Cops being a perfect wildcard addition to fully flesh their haris out.

    WinterFo lands inbetween all this. They're only interested in one profile and it's the 22 point +1B Pulzar profile. It basically rounds out a Karhu Haris (technically a Longarm Haris with 2 Karhu jumping in) the one thing Karhu are shit at which is a lack of lethal DTWs to room clear with. With a burst 3 Damage 14 big DTW the Chaksa provides a solid option to chase everything out of rooms and hits hard enough to threaten everything from 1W link filler crap, to HI and BTS6 TAGs, to TI Dogs. For 22pts it's a steal to support Karhu.
     
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  12. Space Ranger

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    I think Starmada has some good wildcards for them.

    Wildcards
    Shona Carano
    Pavarti
    PSI-Cops
    Tian Gao

    TG can holo as one of the three, hiding that it's a specialist or jammer.

    All PC are Special Operative so any of them are good but the MSV marksman gains a bit with burst.

    Shona can have two cheap-ish bodyguards. But not as good as Varangians.

    I'm mot sure about Pavarti since they are slower.
     
  13. Tourniquet

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    CHAKSA LONGARM Portable Autocannon, Pulzar / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 30)
    PSI-COp (Multispectral Visor L1) Nanopulser(+1B), MULTI Marksman Rifle ( ) / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    PSI-COp (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) ( ) / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24)

    2 SWC | 79 Points

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    TG kinda suck at the moment and at the same cost you are better off taking the second PC, which should be one of the hackers as spec op is borderline useless, it can press a button sure, but I'd rather have the potential to pick up the mission bonuses and the capability to do classifieds.

    Shona can only duo with Vguard in SM, IIRC thanks to the chart they do not get haris.

    unless you are taking some premium HI or something Parvatii while nice isn't needed, and if you are she is better off embedded with them.
     
  14. MattB89

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    Yes
    But you need to somehow deliver them across the board and they do not have smoke or Camo
     
  15. Space Ranger

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    Sorry if sounds sarcastic but Starmada doesn't have another haris team with those either. At most Beatas with mimetisim for more points. And Varangians can throw smoke for them like they would for anyone else. Also no fireteam has camo troops. Thank goodness.
     
  16. MattB89

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    That's true I guess, Starmada doesn't really have Camo or much smoke outside of Varangians. I guess they would probably need some sort of decent gunfighter to help them across the board but that Haris only has combis so it's probably not going far.
     
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    And the fun thing is, most people only looked at the Autocannon...
    (also, Bakunin would use precisely the Autocannon as a compensation for long range AP)

    Parvati is THE BEST wildcard everywhere she is. A cheap multipurpose Haris in Starmada is Shona, Parvati, and Nyoka HMG, I suppose the Chaksa mk12 could replace the Nyoka HMG if you are short on SWC, but he would be the only shock-vulnerable troop (but 3 in ARM/BTS, unlike the Nyokas)

    The Varangians can't link in Starmada at this moment (absent from sectorial chart link options), at the end of the week we will see if this remains or not (Koni has promised an update on the Sectorial Charts for the end of the week).

    That haris is a Big Game Hunter pack (of suicidal chaksas, or speculative fire) because of the E/M grenades and the hacker, so ideally they will cross safe (as in, other troops cleaned the lane) paths.

    Starmada does have Cybermask, however... and several are on HI platforms (Betatrooper, Santiago, Raptor).

    And damn if I can't stop looking at that ML Nyoka for 19pts 1SWC...
     
  18. Triumph

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    Ehhh... probably not it's competing with the wildcard Tsyklon which core links and can get marksmanship on a FB (and carries the core linking pitcher on an X-Visor).
     
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  19. Space Ranger

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    Damage 14 combi. Or for a few more points the damage 16 Mk12. Both of those are close in assault types. Don't forget the damage 14 pulsar. The combi one is also burst 3 in a team. Fantastic for taking down low BTS troops.
     
  20. Mahtamori

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    Nyoka and Chaksa basic rifles are very similar. I'd value Climb+ over what little different the Chaksa brings. When comparing the basic rifle profiles.
     
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