Can you place in different groups models bought in the same package (of course who are not contoller/peripheral but just fireteam duo, like Scarface and Cordelia for example)? Also, can you buy servant peripherals for one of them and play them splitted? I would say yes to both, but the app does not allow the first case. Oh, and finally, where are the rules about these instances?
https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/companion-troops-changing-groups.39602/#post-401869 You can add a Servant Peripheral to Cordelia as they're assigned during deployment and she has the Engineer skill, as long as she's not in a Fireteam. Note that Joe and Cordi can only form a Special Duo in Druze.
Thanks. Since the previous thread is only about moving one of them during the game, I suppose the answer about placing them directly in two different groups during army creation should be the same. (also thx about pointing out they are only a duo in Druze, I am about to play Ikari and had missed that!)
The rules don't actually address package troopers at all, that I can see. The Army List rule talks about AVA, point costs, combat groups, peripherals, unit profiles, but doesn't mention anything about how there might be two different troops which can only be added to the list if both are added to the list. So, RAW, arguably you can bring Scarface without Cordelia. The fact that Army won't allow it is arguably, RAW, a bug in Army. The problem is that it's pretty clearly not a bug, and the intention is that you have to buy them as a package even though the rules don't provide for such a thing. Given that, I think most TOs would probably require that your army list be valid in Army, i.e. both troopers have to start in the same combat group. Sure, the rules don't say that it's required, but the rules don't say that you have to buy them together at all. Both restrictions are imposed only by the Army app, but would appear to be intended by CB. ...probably?
Thanks. Now, at least, I am certain that all my uncertainties on this issue are shared by others as well :)
I would say that as Army doesn't let you split them during the list building stage they can't be split at that point. Not being able to move just one once the game begins seems to be an engine limitation in the Play mode, though an FAQ would be ideal.
I agree with you, but the logic is sort of based on the assumption that they put more resources into making the list-building function work as intended than they put into making the Play function work as intended. I think I'm biased because I never use the Play mode (I track my orders in other ways) so I tend to assume it's not an important part of Army. The counter-argument would be that, once we accept that Army is intended to impose certain restrictions that aren't mentioned in the rulebook, there's no reason to limit those to the restrictions imposed by the list-building portion of Army. So maybe the restrictions in the Play mode could be intended, too...
The discussion in the linked thread overlooks the bullet point in Servant where moving a controller to a new combat group automatically moves all of the servants as well.\ Given this bullet point in Servant: A Controller and their Peripherals always belong to the same Combat Group. If the player moves the Controller into a different Combat Group, all their Peripherals are moved as well. it doesn't seem like a bug. The rules are set up so that the first sentence remains true, without costing extra command points if you want to move a controller somewhere.
The question is about package troops like Scarface and Cordelia or Margot and Duroc, not peripherals.
I meant if you can buy peripherals for one of the models of the package, like in the case of Cordelia (who is an engineer) and Scarface. But I was already quite sure about that, I just added the question to the pool about package models. The real point is that there is nowhere a rule explaining how to behave about those. Also, the fact that moving them during the game in different group seems to be legal (as discussed in the linked thread) but placing them splitted to begin with is not is quite weird to be honest.