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Cause YuJing is garbage

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by wuji, Apr 15, 2021.

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  1. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    Imperial service has some of the best miniatures in yu jing which again has some of the best miniatures in the whole range. It's as with all things a matter of taste I guess.
    I have almost everything of yu jing and I just love the models. And the ideas behind the armies would I change some things of I could? Yes but that's just wishlist ING and would often make the Game imbalanced. If executed right and with some minor tweaks white banner could in my opinion be really strong and exciting to play. I find them entertaining as they are.
    Invincibles are just cool and have a lot of brute force but you can also play such stupid things as 4 liu xing which is just funny even if you loose. Haidaos shod have BTS 3 but else they are exactly how they should be the wildcard that is able to fiill the particular hole you might have in your link.

    Sometimes I habe the impression that some new things are introduced to yu jing and then implemented into other factions in a more optimised way. Or that crucial profiles aren't getting a miniature in foreseeable time. I had two HMG Daofei when the profile was deleted.
    I guess some of the sentiment comes from this and the uprising. As I started with/short time after the uprising and with JSA (I am a sicker for far east culture in space) and was then pulled into yu jing with the beautiful, and characterful miniatures, I wasn't affected in that way and just have a lot of fun.
    But then I am not the most competitive player.

    For me it's a lot about the painting and converting and there is so much you can do with yu jing on this end.
     
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  2. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    ... I am going to give this thread one chance and only if I do not see the opening comments "euphemisms" or anything similar again.
     
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  3. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    I'm well aware of how almost inflamatory I spoke, the point isnt actually to talk shit about YuJing, are you able to see that? To see that the point is to force a positive defense of YuJing because so many people complain about it? Unless this is again not directed at me, in which case O've already implored you to just tell me strait up.
     
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  4. nazroth

    nazroth 'well known Nomad agitator'

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    I moved to Yu-Jing from Nomads because Yu-Jing has stuff that I always wanted to play, but there's none in Nomads all the while Yu-Jing also has some stuff that allows me to play it Nomad'ish enough to keep me in my comfort zone. I don't think Yu-Jing is top tier, but it ain't garbage. One thing Yu-Jing really excels in is whining about Yu-Jing. This isn't an opinion. It's a fact. Interestingly it is contained to online only. I know a lot of Yu-Jing players personally and it never comes to complaining about the faction face-to-face.

    Why play Yu-Jing?
    Rui-Shi, Su-Jian, Hac-Tao, Kuang Shi, Daofei, Chain of Command, Long Ya, Guilang and more... some awesome Fireteam options and LT options. On top of that fckn fantastic looks!

    That's my opinion at least.
     
  5. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Care to share a YuJing Nomad build
     
  6. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    I get the feeling you heard Yu Jing was a pit of bile and salt, and are a tourist trying to kick the pot when you found out the forum doesn't really live up to that expectation in any lively way (yes, we're a salty broth chock full of MSG, but it's largely benign and boring).

    @psychoticstorm personally, I think this one is inherently toxic at it's conception, and would best be put down.
     
  7. Diphoration

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    I think Yu Jing is pretty strong.

    I know, I'm very brave.
     
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  8. Arkhos94

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    I'm playing one army each season. I played Ariadna, Aleph, Nomads, Pano and currently Combined Army (current and previous season)

    I was thinking on my next army and spend some time reviewing each roaster and vanilla yu-jing seems quite nice. The only reason for me not to take them as my next army would be a very good tohaa release (waiting for it to try fireteam)

    A very good roaster of skirmisher/mid-field camo, good mid-cost TAG (jump + multi HMG is scary when well used and the blue wolf seems nice) , good active piece, CC potential, nice jump trump, a nice cheap warband, fun REM, good ARO piece (lot of potential in hidden deployement hundun HRL)

    Lot of potential to do different styled list for tournament (very defensive, very offensive, full camo, long range, objective focused...)

    I have not much experience with sectorial as I always played vanilla so I can't judge. But calling it garbage seems insane
     
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  9. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    You're in the other thread so I know you read my response to someone's question why I'm bothering at all. So you already know, it's not that I dont find YuJing awful, I'm just barely interested in it. Only thing I see that I dont like for sure is Haidao. And if i was going to play YuJing, it would be ISS but that's what most people would play for obvious reasons.
     
  10. nazroth

    nazroth 'well known Nomad agitator'

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    https://infinitytheuniverse.com/arm...IAQEAAgUAfAEIAAB8AQEAAHwBAQAAfAEBAACAlgELAA==

    https://infinitytheuniverse.com/arm...BAAIFAICIAQEAAICIAQEAAICIAQEAAICIAQEAADIBAQA=

    These are fun-lists. I treat Yu-Jing as a side project, take what I like, don;t stress to much on list building. It's not exactly Nomad, just has a similar style to what I run with Vanilla Nomads plus benefits of Yu-Jing. Camos, SMidboard control, some tricks, some cheap stuff to trade, few heavy hitters, hackers suck but there's a Camo HI, there's Shang Ji on top of a full link, Long Ya's which are crazy good. Low Specialist count, can be improved for particular missions.
     
  11. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Was there hackers in those lists? You said hacker's suck so I just figured they were regular hackers and you were relying on repeaters for firewalls but I didnt see any hackers. I think both list are usable, kind or holding on to the older list style when you could have more models it seems, the Hundun and Longya seem to be such a staple unit and are clever designs by CB, with they made everything like this for YuJing. Its not OP, it's definitely not dead weight, it's more interesting than alot of what I see in YuJing.
     
  12. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    Why?
    Your approach is unhelpful.
     
  13. ldgif

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    Man, this is one of the two worst threads I have read in a week. Even visitors want to mine the salt mountains that give this sub-forum its’ reputation.

    Also by far one of the worst starts of any thread ever and borderline offensive.
     
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  14. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    People actually started saying positive things about YuJing here, but go ahead and keep spreading that "YuJing hate" I hear so much about
     
  15. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    Get bent buddy.
    You aren’t the forum police. It’s not your place to go around trying to stir up either “that "YuJing hate" I hear so much about” or “to force a positive defense of YuJing”.
    Just butt out.
     
  16. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    This thread just seems like bait and I don’t think it is really contributing to any thing. You started this off with insults while also displaying ignorance to the faction. Then made probably one of the most bizarre euphemism I have ever seen.

    Yu Jing is a pretty strong army, especially in Vanilla. I don’t think any of us contest this point, more so dislike some of the design choices that are made in the sectorials. IA is strong, WB is alright but kinda weird, and ISS needs some help.

    On a complete side note how is the Hai Dao garbage? It is one of the best costed MSV2 units in the game with a second “wound” to boot. Look at its’ cost compared to the Brawler MSV2, it is a freaking steal.
     
  17. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    You're asking a question here, and I point you to a thread which asked pretty much the same one. And it's not that old, so I don't think you've even bothered looking.

    edit:
    It's not that obvious, but now I'm curious to know what is it that you seem to like so much about ISS?
     
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  18. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Wow you're mature
     
  19. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Is it not obvious this thread is a response to the other thread? One thread intended as what might help yujing turned into hate. So I wanted to see immediately what people liked about yujing.

    Well, first I dont play it but easy start is SuJian, the Chinese SS theme, the Star Wars Empire with Bounty Hunters theme (I'd consider an empire themed paint scheme), Hsien, Crane, Ninjas, Madtraps, Kanren, Wuming and to a lesser degree the Aleph troops and Sun Tzu is just a wash for me, I'd use him sometimes but I'd be fine leaving him at home. The real question is, what do you, do, with this knowledge of why I like ISS. Cause my argument has never been YuJing is garbage... I actually dont understand what people mean by ISS needs tweaking. Only thing that doesnt make sense to me is Suntzus build. That's it.
     
  20. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    Yeah it's obvious. But it doesn't change my point. The answer to your question are all over the place, but you need to actually care and look around instead of simply reacting to how people reacted to your previous thread. The thread I linked is a good place to start, but there are other ones as well.
    What is also obvious is that you don't really understand the dynamic of this sub. We already have one extremely confrontational user (who'll recognize himself I'm sure), and if it was working the way you think it works this sub would be sweeter than honey. But it isn't. So you can leave your sarcastic dark knight cape at home, it's not necessary I assure you.

    Nothing, I'm just curious.

    Some issues only really appear once you start making lists and push models around on the table. You've listed a good chunk of the ISS roster and themes, so what would be your idea of a good ISS list you'd like to play?
     
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