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My Starmada EXP/Thoughts

Discussion in 'O-12' started by D_acolyte, Mar 30, 2021.

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  1. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Most TAG answers seem to be based around getting close and gluing it. Bluecoats are a standout here with that burst 3 ADHL in a Fireteam able to sneak into the +0 range on the HMG/HMRC. Bronzes bring either a Riotstopper or AK and can get AP from either their Shotgun or multi.

    Psi-Cops bring an MMMR with good BS, Mimetism, and Wildcard.

    All these require getting close though, which makes VarGuard and Cyberghosts ever more vital.

    Oh, there's Andromeda with Guard+D-Charges as well.
     
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  2. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    I like the Nyoka HRL at damage 15 blast a Zeta saves on 8, anyone with a multi weapon, or if you can get a Bronze there hand to hand works well. To be honest fighting TAGs is hard with Starmada if you do not bring your own.
     
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  3. MrNailbrain

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    In my experience the Psi Cop Multi MMR is the backbone of this faction. Excellent point man in any fire team as long as you can get out of your deployment zone, which is of course where the faction struggles. The Epsilon HMG is probably the best option for knocking down linked ARO pieces after you can use a Crusher or drop troop to break the 5-man bonus.

    The faction as a whole cannot compete with a tooled-up link team operating with the full bonuses, you need to be cagey and strip at least the BS bonus before engaging.

    A couple other pieces I rate highly:
    -Bronze Paramedic. He’s deadly in close quarters and the gluezerfaust is a long range option to make things F2F.
    -Raptor Spitfire. Fast, deadly, templates. If you can find a way to sneak him through the middle of the table he will absolutely gut an enemy force that’s out of position. Great counterpunch as well.
    -Bluecoat LT. If I’m not fielding Hector, this guy is my favorite LT choice because he has a great array of defensive tech. Templates, close range weapons and a CC that can stop Fidays and Speculos. He can link with Kappas or other Bluecoats (and the Bluecoat team is super versatile) or he can ride solo.
    -Crusher drop trooper. Hauling a Panzerfaust on an unexpected angle with BS13 and Mimetism is great. Lateral cross board panzerfausts are a great way to catch someone off guard and get a shot in from their back. NWI on drop troops is underrated, you can come in hot and tank a rifle ARO and keep on trucking. Plus, specialist and D-charges.
     
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  4. Time Bandit

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    So are we sure that Varangian can't haris? It seems most likely to be an update issue no?

    Don't wanna get all melodramatic but a Shona + 2 varangian haris would do a great deal for this sectorial's viability.
     
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    Sadly the Varangian Haris is not on the Sectorial Chart, but it would be a nice gimmick for this sector.
    A wilcard Epsilon would also be realy nice peace for the Starmada Link Teams.
     
  7. Time Bandit

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    Indeed, it's not on the chart. I was more wondering how regularly the charts are updated, and whether we might expect an eventual change, such as when the models drop later in the year.

    Are there other instances of legal haris troopers not being able to haris due to chart restrictions in other sectorials?
     
  8. Delta57Dash

    Delta57Dash Well-Known Member

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    If you're asking if there are other profiles with Fireteam Skills that are unable to form those fireteams; yes.

    Easiest example: Literally every troop that has a Fireteam skill when viewed in a Vanilla faction.

    There's a few more sprinkled around (Scarface can't always Duo). The charts aren't supposed to be updated very often (if ever), only when something gets intentionally added/removed from a faction. Army still needs a lot of cleaning up though.
     
  9. Time Bandit

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    The vanilla limitation is hardwired into N4 rules: "To use this rule, a player must field a Sectorial Army List". I'm asking about sectorials, and if there are any examples of a trooper's legal haris being excluded solely on the basis of a sectorial's chart. Just interested, and have a feeling it'll change. God knows Starmada could use it! :D
     
  10. miguelbarbo84

    miguelbarbo84 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about other haris but we can't also use Santiago Knights Duo (just the special with Bronze) or, of course, Hector Enomotarchos.

    White Company can't use CSU duos but oddly enough their Varangian guard FT options are ok in Army app (duo, special, no haris...).

    Haven't looked more but seems it's not a unique case.

    Anyway the "issue" with Starmada wouldn't be near to solved with this Harris.
     
  11. Delta57Dash

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    You've got your logic the wrong way around; a trooper's legal haris isn't excluded on the basis of the sectorial's chart; a trooper can ONLY form a legal haris based on the sectorial chart.

    The Sectorial Chart is the only thing, period, that tells you what fireteams you can form in that Sectorial. That's it. Making sure you include a unit with the appropriate skill is a separate consideration. The exception to this rule is Fireteam: Core, which is not a skill; its inclusion in Army is simply for convenience while list-building. Therefore, as long as you include a unit capable of forming a Core according to the Sectorial Chart, you're good.

    As for examples, I provided one: Scarface. Neither Scarface nor Cordelia can form a Duo in Ikari, despite both having the Fireteam: Duo skill.

    Another example is the Guijia in White Company, which has the Fireteam: Duo skill, but cannot actually form a Duo.

    Varangians can't Haris in Starmada. If Corvus Belli decides they should be able to, they will update the Sectorial Chart.
     
  12. Time Bandit

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    I know varangians can't currently haris in starmada my dude, you don't have to repeat what you and numerous others have already said. And I don't have my logic the wrong way round... there's no need for aggro over this tiny thing. Here's what I'm saying...

    1) Varangians only recently gained haris on their profile, after the release of Starmada's chart
    2) Starmada is the only sectorial they feature in
    3) There are no other examples that spring to mind of haris troopers in a sectorial that can't form a haris fireteam
    C) The chart will very likely be updated soon to include the haris option listed on the sheet

    That conclusion would be weakened if there were an example of this elsewhere in the game (3), that's why I asked.

    Peace.
     
  13. Mahtamori

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    Varangian home sectorial is Kosmoflot where they can form Duo, Haris, and Core

    And funnily enough, Patsy Garnet has 0 use for her Haris skill
    Authorized Bounty Hunters in Dahshat have the Haris skill but can't use it
    (Yes, they're both Wildcards, but there's no longer any Haris they can Wildcard into that won't have the Haris skill)
     
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  14. Delta57Dash

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    Varangians are in several sectorials, actually.

    White Company and Kosmoflot both have them; they are able to Haris in Kosmoflot (who also has access to their unique 9 point profile).

    Also I went ahead and dug around: Authorized Bounty Hunters have Fireteam: Haris in Dahshat, but cannot form one according to their sectorial chart.
     
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  15. Time Bandit

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    Good on you, thanks Delta. That leaves my theory pretty busted.

    (Just had a look, it's weird they don't have haris on their sheet in White company.)
     
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    Yeah; it's kind of a shame they don't get "real" fireteams anywhere but Kosmoflot, but they might be a bit TOO good if they could.
     
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