N4 E/M CC Weapon clarification

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  1. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    searched the wiki and the search results came back with nothing.
    maybe overthinking this:
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    is the Normal damage inflicted on both bts rolls (and apply bts effects + other CC skills such as shock)or just the first roll?
     
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    Yes. See https://infinitythewiki.com/Combined_Ammunition and the example of DA+AP forcing two Saving Rolls which both apply the AP effect.

    In the same way, EM+N is two Saving Rolls applying all the effects of both ammunition types.
     
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    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    thanks everyone!
    and with that domaru are even more scary
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    'Freaking terrifying' is the phrase I use to describe them!
     
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    To expand on this clarification, If Nourkais lands two hits on his opponent in CC using the EM CCW, the opponent makes 4 N+EM rolls. And if he crits twice, he makes 6. Correct? All 6 saves could heal Nourishment through protheion as long as it doesn’t exceed his base wounds value by 2 correct?
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Exactly, Nourishment is particularly scary in CC.
     
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    In a funny way, that typo kinda makes sense...
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Yeah, it was so appropriate I decided to keep it in my answer!
     
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    Two rolls vs BTS divided by two ?

    Cause we slightly defer from the examples in the wiki.

    The example in the wiki shows two ammo rolling against the same attribute (ARM)

    Here we have N rolling against ARM and EM rolling against BTS (I think N+EM CC weapon are the only one doing that right now). I have trouble understanding why we should roll against BTS only.
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Normal ammo doesn't have an assigned saving roll in N4. The weapon determines the saving roll, not the ammo type.

    For example, a Nanopulsar has Normal ammo vs BTS. A Breaker Pistol has AP ammo vs BTS.
     
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    What colbrook said.
     
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