Thinking about starting Military orders

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Menelao, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. Menelao

    Menelao New Member

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    Hello folks,

    I play infinity since some years now, not really often though, just for fun with a couple of friends.
    I tried several armies, mostly for modelling and collection, and I really never get focused in playing any faction, but USAriadna.

    I saw the new Military Orders miniatures, and I love them already. So I was seriously thinking to buy them and to make them my second focused faction. I mean: discard the others and collect and play USAriadna and MO.
    They look quite different, and would give me some variety in playstyle and tactics/possibilities.

    Nevertheless, I would like to ask for some advice from PanO players...
    Is it worth to buy the pre-order miniatures ?
    Should I buy many additional miniatures, in order to build a generic battle group ?
    I do not care if this sectorial is is really strong (I don`t play official tournaments, but only friendly matches, mostly vs Neoterra or Ikari)... I would like a flexible sectorial, which gives me the chance to play in different ways, without suffer too much.

    Would you advise it to me ??
     
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  2. Ruaridh

    Ruaridh Well-Known Member

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    So if you have the money and like the models go for it. There are other mendoza sculpts for aresteia. The plastic one in smoke and mirrors is really good. The bike is likely to have another sculpt too at some point, I just kit bashed mine with the authorised bounty hunter bike and magnetising the old father knight to attach to the base. If you like the models though and have the disposable cash go for it. If not I wouldn't be too concerned there are alternatives you can do and proxies and kit bashing or eventually resculpts:)

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  3. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    Aristeia is a different scale, though. I tried using the Aristeia Dart model, but she just looked like a giant. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad with Mendoza since he's a HI? I'd definitely try to look at the model side-by-side with other MO HI before spending the money on it.

    Re the OP questions... yeah, no one on here is gonna advise you not to buy minis :-) Go for it.
     
  4. redeemer

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    the new pack is worth every cent if you have extra cash buying order Sargent box and Joan would be a good idea, as for the strength of the sectorial MO have always been wrecking balls with a weakness to hacking they tend to do fine at most missions, but do not expect flexibility MO are not the nomads.
     
  5. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    She should be the right size. Her base is too big though.
     
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    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    Dart? No, the model itself is way too big. She's slightly larger than an orc in power armor.
     
  7. Menelao

    Menelao New Member

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    You say that an additional group of order sergeants would make it feasible to put together a decent combat group ?
    Looks not bad... But the core team will be formed with the new light infantry I think... Which role you give to the sergeants now ??
     
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  8. Ruaridh

    Ruaridh Well-Known Member

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    Concillium watch did a MO army builder vid on youtube with a few example lists one using just the new pano release

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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Honestly, I think if you pick up the current bundle you'll have a good start on MO, and you can pretty much add anything you like to it. I definitely think Mendoza and the Montesa are worth it as they add some really interesting and unusual profiles to the army.

    We're getting a Teuton box soon which will be almost an auto buy IMO, and a Trinirinitarians blister which looks good.

    Order Sergeants provide DZ defense with their Auxbot, and a hacker or cheap HRL to join Teuton/Hospi links.

    Hospitallers make a good Haris with HMG, Doctor, and a Wildcard or Sarge.

    Joan can be very useful in the right list.

    Crusaders aren't top tier but also the only Parachutist option in MO.

    I'm not 100% on De Fersen yet but I'm thinking of him in a Hospi Haris as a combo of big gun, specialist, and hacker.

    Remotes are rarely a bad buy for any army.

    I ordered the MO bundle and the 300 point MO box which should see me set for a lot of different lists.
     
  10. Menelao

    Menelao New Member

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    The only doubt I have regarding the MO bundle is the Montesa motorcycle box: it costs a lot... it makes me get Mendoza for free, but it`s an expensive tax... Looking in the forum I didn`t see it mentioned in many lists... I love the miniature, but it really costs a lot.
    Do you think it`s a useful unit ?
    Or should I take only the action pack and buy Mendoza later on (or proxy him somehow)... and use the almost 40 euros to get order sergents or other more useful miniatures ??
     
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    Ruaridh Well-Known Member

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    Where are you based? The place I'm ordering from is letting me order just mendoza. I don't need the bike as made a kit bash already and will pick up the box when I have more money. So if you could would work our cheaper but then it wouldn't cost much more to get the bike and get mendoza free I suppose. I like having all the options to be honest and if I had the cash would get the bike just now. But if they release it later I will prob pick it up anyway

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  12. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    The Montesa is great, especially in missions with an exclusion zone. I can't say whether he fits well in MO, but I use him all the time in SAA. Sometimes I bring two. And he is fun to play, too. Especially since you said you're not worried about playing competitively, so who cares if he's good in MO, just get him and drive him all over the table making vroom vroom noises.
     
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  13. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    There will be a general release Montesa later but it will probably be a different loadout and might not come with a rider.

    If you consider the Montesa cost to include Mendoza (a fantastic mini with awesome rules) then it's more reasonable. I also think you'll see the Montesa in a lot of button pushing lists as fast specialists are worth their points in gold in those missions.
     
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    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    Really? Is it the plastic model? I’ve had very good luck with the metal aresteia models.
     
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    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    Yup it was plastic. It's the only aristeia model I've ever seen, so maybe it was atypical? But yeah it was huge - like the Hunzakut had stood up.

    It all worked out in the end, I chopped off the bow and grafted it onto a Yadu to make my current Dart.
     
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  16. daimonx

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    My advice: go with the new box plus mendoza. He's a killing maching, but expensive. The montesa is good, but usually people prefer to choose another IP's over him. From here, expand with the new soon to be release box of teutons (chep knights, you're going to enjoy them, cheap points knights) plus trinitarians (or proxies for trinitarias, as the most used profile is the minelayer, and the company is going to release the sniper profile instead). Dart ist a must, too. cheap for what she does. And the support pack, with a doctor, machinist and two palbots.

    If you don't like the new teutons, you can try to find the discountinued magister knights, as it has beend discountinued, you can try to find it with a good discount in some shops.

    But I also advice to purchase the old 300 points military order pack, as it include a lot of miniatures with a discount, and has almost all the other knight units you miss.

    So, to sum up:
    - Start with the new box + new teutons (soon to be released) /old discountinued magisters + support pack (this can be avoided if you have other miniatures that can act as proxies for doctor, ingenier or palbots).
    - Expand with dart and trinitaries. Cheap infiltrators with mimetism and camo to help the expensive knights.

    From this point:
    - The old 300 points box. A lot of profiles to experiment.
    - Mendoza. He's a killing machine and you will love him, but it's not a must first buy, as you can use another miniatures to use as proxy for him.

    - Remotes box, warcor, tech bee. Low points models, to complete lists. The remotes have a lot of different models you can choose from, depends of the role you want to have in battle.
    - Tags: seraph or tikbalang. Lovely and expensive miniatures, but you have to make your list around him more or less.
     
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  17. jake richmond

    jake richmond Well-Known Member

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    I haven't played the new Montessa yet, or new MO, but back in N2 when I played MO one of the things I always wished for was a fast moving and durable Doctor who could easily get to my downed troops, even if he had to fight through a few enemies. Of course, the Hospitaler Doc is plenty tough, but he's not fast. I wasted a lot of orders getting him where he needed to be. And the Trauma Doc with Palbot is fast, but not durable and won't be fighting its way through anything. The Montessa gets to fill the role of effective rescue unit (and Paramedic is great in an army with high PH) while being a very solid backup attack piece, a fast flanker and an effective button pusher. I think he's going to be great in at least some lists.
     
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  18. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    I actually find myself wishing we had AVA 2 on the Montessa so I could field the Red Fury and the Paramedic.
     
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  19. jake richmond

    jake richmond Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Its a little weird that we don't?
     
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    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Very.

    Just like the choice to cap Teutons so low that you need a minimum of two Wildcard choices to field a Core.
     
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