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Vaulting 'Over'

Discussion in 'Rules' started by spears, Mar 15, 2021.

  1. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick sanity check to make sure I've not been playing this wrong forever. When vaulting over at ground level is this legal?
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    Or is over intended to mean you have to finish the other side.
     

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  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Watching this, because I don't think this was ever clarified, even in N3.

    I do think the rules aren't preventing it, but it'd be interesting if moving over an obstacle required a straight path.
     
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  3. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    And as a follow which if any of the below are legal?
    A.

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    B.
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    C.

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    Edit: edited c
     

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    solkan Well-Known Member

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    There can’t be a requirement for a “straight” path. Because that would prevent vaulting over curved obstacles in various situations.
     
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    that is what i was thinking too. There is two side for a vault : the side you start on and you side you finish. Both the starting and finishing side must be not too high.

    You could think the finish side to count is the one opposite to the starting side (based on example pictured) but that would prevent vaulting on curved obstacle, or vaulting on a 4-sided column/post and landing on a side other than the one opposite where you hopped on.

    Those situation being allowed to exist, means you must consider the "other" side of the vault as being the side where you land, not necessarily the side opposite where you started; which for the 2d rulebook example is the same thing anyway.
     
  6. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    B is definitely illegal, as you'd be trying to vault towards a drop that's higher than your Silhouette Template.
     
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  7. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, is it safe to assume the others are legal or are they 'no comment'?
     
  8. Vohlere

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    And where would be the 'tipping point' between B and the others?
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    I think they'd be legal.

    As soon as any part of the Silhouette goes over a drop taller than the Silhouette.
     
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    Makes sense! Thanks =]
     
  11. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Much appreciated.
     
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    Like I wrote I don't think that's how it is, but rather that it'd be interesting if it were. However, I don't see how the shape of the obstacle would have any impact on whether your path over it was straight or not, particularly if you keep in mind that some situations would allow you to use the "squeeze" mechanic.
     
  13. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but just for completeness (this is a difficult one for 2d) Is this legal, or only legal if your path forces you to do it.

    upload_2021-3-15_12-47-34.png
     
  14. ijw

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    Only if your path forces you to do it.
     
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    What would force your path to do it?
     
  16. Nuada Airgetlam

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    A wall and this area being a thin ledge, for example.
     
  17. ijw

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    A ledge that isn't wide enough to support your base. Imagine a solid wall behind the translucent Silhouette.
     
  18. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Like this
     
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    Exactly.
     
  20. kinginyellow

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    Awesome, that makes sense.
     
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