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  1. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    So next time people want to run their mouths and talk shit, maybe do some of your own research instead of going to Snopes.
     
  2. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Okay, anti-masker. Still dangerous and dumb. Looking forward to this thread being shut down, and this kind of crap being excluded from the forums. There are plenty of other places to spread bad science and tinfoil hat stuff.
     
  3. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Look buddy, just cause you believe in wearing a muzzle because your supposed leaders and the MSM tell you too, doesn't mean that's the right thing to do or that they have your best interests in mind. And yeah, people have died. But from what? The CDC says the vast majority of those who have died were either elderly and or had 2 or more other co-morbidities. And if the same authorities who are telling people to double and triple mask up are also admitting that you're gonna get way more false positives on the PCR test at higher cycle thresholds. Then what are what are people really dying from? You act like you know more than me, so answer the question.
     
  4. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    No, I believe in wearing a mask because I spent 10 years in the medical field, and understand infection control.

    I would rather listen to medical authorities, who are very much universal that masking significantly reduces airborne droplet infection.

    Your assertions here with no citations are not a convincing counterargument. You are however making yourself look pretty irrational, not least because you are passionately pursuing an anti-mask argument on a toy soldiers forum.
     
  5. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Here's a reputable source, on the more publicly-accessible end of peer-reviewed scientific publications but still very solid review standards.Little summary pointing to lots of studies in here, including some with varying results.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
     
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    kanluwen Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for your loss, Nuada. I popped by the forum to see what was happening and thought I should express some condolences.

    Also, if you're going to be on the net? Don't be here. Especially these kind of dipshit conspiracy theory posts.
     
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    kanluwen Well-Known Member

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    God are you full of stupid. Just so full of stupid. You are a pathetic, despicable waste of space on this planet and I genuinely hope that you do not get sick and have to find out what people are actually having to go through because of dipshits like you espousing this kind of nonsense.

    Literally none of what you "cited" in this thread is correct. You need to learn how to read and to comprehend what you're reading.

    Dipshit.
     
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    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    I'll say here what I said to a friend last time one of Wuji's extreme mental pocket billiards posts blew up (which I think was a social darwinist take about how he thinks slavery is good, actually), which is: there's a Venn Diagram of 'people who need medication' and 'people who are getting medication' and Wuji is in the wrong circle.
     
  9. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Wow, you really are trying vilify me and twist shit up about the past. If you're referring to the conversation I think you are. The context was about what to do with criminals. I.e. prisoners. As in it's a penalty against law abiding citizens to have to pay for the liklihood of people who harm other people in that community. Not everyone can be rehabilitated. Of which you are the lowest scum between the two of us cause you can't even be honest about the past argument and you misconstrued the truth then too. Get out of here clown.
     
  10. wuji

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    I provided plenty of links, some of which were studies. Other about the weather were an interview from a world renowned expert and and hearing by officials over seeing what do about a scientific facility. So I didnt cute what? You're just as much a clown as everyone makes you out to be. You came here and provided nothing constructive to the conversation, talked alot of shit and didnt provide anything to counter the information I provided all the while you claiming I was wrong and cited nothing. Well turns out you're a moron cause most of my sources I provided or I asked someone specifically if they wanted me to do the extra work to hunt down some sources but they had to agree to address those sources because it was obvious they werent looking into anything else I provided so why would I put in the extra work for someone whonisngonma respect it. I'm just saying the truth, you guys are the ones who don't like it. Masks dont work and there is a high a number of false positives as recognized by the WHO, Fauci h I'll myself, the Great Barrington Declaration and co-comorbidities recognized by the CDC as well as a huge decline in recorded influenza cases for the year of 2020 start about around when the CV scare ramped up. You guys do with that information what you will. Call it what you will, but those are the facts. I offered someone earlier that I would put in the extra work to go find those harder sources. I was attacked. At this point I'm like, if you guys wanna stay ignorant that's on you. If you want me to the digging etc etc just so you can not look at it or experience some cognitive dissonance and try and shit on me some more for providing you with facts that dont fit your world view, then you can go fuck your selves or man up and actually look.
     
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    You're a dipshit. End of story.

    It's okay to not know something. Questioning things is fine. But you're not doing that. You're parroting the rabbit-hole nonsense that has led the US to be to this situation.
     
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    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Get some therapy, my dude. You are super visibly not well.
     
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    Wow, fantastic, your article states the same specs for N95 masks as my source did retard. It says it stops things down to 1-3 micron (micro meters). Heres my original link, feel free to go back in the post to verify in already told everyone this including you.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9487666/#:~:text=N95 respirators made by different,that size for NaCl particles.

    Nanometers are 1/1000th the size of a micro meter. The size of CV is is the 200nm and smaller. Just search for "nm" in the page. The source is The Lancet a renowned medical journal.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

    Exhaled particles are as small as .01 micron meters. 2nd paragraph.

    https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12931-019-0970-9

    This means the virus and the exhaled aerosolized particles in which the virus travels are both smaller than the smallest pore of the gold standard N95 mask. It's a fucking joke.

    Now imagine how long certain agencies and individuals have known that higher cycle thresholds for the PCR test with certain material will give you false positives in large numbers. Think how human beings are related to dogs and chimps and rats even. Apply this logic to the facts viruses belong to families as well. Higher cycle thresholds and a piece of material that is similar across many viruses is gonna give you crazy number.

    I'm not saying anything but o adjective facts. I offered to go dig up some old shit inaint looked at in a while. I never thought I'd have to explain to so many people what's wrong. I mean, so many asymptomatic people all had corona virus that was killing people in supposedly world altering numbers?

    Seems like many people made a chain of mistakes while other people knew and didnt say anything and others knew and just kept telling the same story anyways.
     
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    I don't feel good about this thread, but I'll try to address specific scientific points raised.

    As you mentioned earlier, masks don't block particles below a certain size. Gasses such as carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide fall into that category, and can pass through a mask fairly well. This isn't like breathing in and out of a plastic bag; you're able to get fresh air in through the mask and expel waste gasses out through the mask.
     
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    Masks don't stop 100% of aerosolized water droplets, it's true. But they do stop enough of them to significantly reduce transmissibility in public. This is why even with masks, you should be following social distancing rules, staying out of enclosed spaces for extended periods of time, etc.
     
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    Just look at the sources provided above in my most recent message. I questioned. I dug into legitimate sources. It's just everyone here already has beliefs. And the information I'm presenting is challenging those beliefs in very critical ways. Facts are facts, no matter who likes them or not. Sure some exhaled droplets are stopped by the N95 mask but it dont matter in grand scheme of things when talking about a "super contagious ultra deadly virus". Say I'm a dipshit. I dont care, just go look at the facts instead of a story. Just look at hard data. No emotional stories, just isolated data. With isolated individual queries. "How small is CV". "How small is exhaled particles". "How small is the N95 protection". Asking questions like this, isolated, separate. Gives you the real information with no story and no lies when they try mention a mask and exhaled air in the same paragraph. Let the fear and any other emotion go and just look for hard data. Likewise for evrything else.
     
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    Surgeons are both tring to keep themselves from getting exposed to any contaminants of their patient, but are also trying to not do anything to contaminate the internal body cavity of the patient. Operating theaters are kept pretty much as close to sterile as we can manage in an environment that people have to be able to move in and out of on a regular basis. Even a small amount of bacterial contamination inside a patient can lead to severe infections or sepsis.
     
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    "Super contagious ultra deadly virus" needs lots of exposure to make you sick?

    So masks are good enough to lower exposure to this "super contagious ultra deadly" virus but not good enough to trap some enough CO2 to give people a headache, lower concentration and have cumulative health effects on the rest of the body? I dont think anyone likes double standards. And the symptoms indescribed are reported as common amongst people with prolonged mask wearing.

    Fact, is you've always been reasonable before, maybe you didnt have any reason to question all this or maybe you did. But, you dont shutdown the entire planet if your masks arent full proof. Furthermore, much of the world and even american states have told this mask mandate and lockdowns to fuck off cause they saw there were too many errors in all this decision making. You do what you will with this. I'm done, I coulda shared more with people that would have helped people understand even better but everyone was so desperate to protect their world views that they immediately jumped to name calling and emotional outbursts. Then they say their not sheep. Most the people people here didnt even look at shit and think for a moment before they vomited their already preconceived opinions. So yeah, TC, think whatever the fuck you want but a virus that is so infectious and deadly, will get you whether it's one drop or a thousand, and this CV, this ain't that virus. This is all shitty journalism, fear porn, faulty testing and a mixed handful of ignorant and/or corrupt medical professionals appointed to positions of authority. Case closed.
     
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    Or you're clearly high on yourself thinking you're above doing any reading of your own or definitely indoctrinated by the MSM narrative. Also, at this stage in the argument you look pathetic calling me your dude. It's too late for you to be the cool guy. Which means you're socially out of touch. Maybe you need therapy.
     
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    If masks were completely foolproof, we wouldn't need any other restrictions other than assuring that people wore them. We're unfortunately in a situation where even if you follow all the best practices, you run the risk of exposure and sickness every time you go out. It's not great, and kind of scary, but it's the best we've got at the moment.

    Part of what makes this virus difficult to manage is that not everyone gets equally sick when they get it. I'm pretty sure that my family got it back in April of last year, but we were unable to get a formal diagnosis due to test shortages at that time. Even just within our one household, severity was pretty varied, but fortunately none of us had to be hospitalized.

    Vaccines will help, because they reduce the overall infection rate. Current studies also indicate that even in cases where the vaccine does not prevent infection, it does reduce the severity. So people who would have died are only sick, and people who would have otherwise very sick instead have only a mild case. This is very good, and will save a lot of lives. Of course, this means that some people who would have had a mild case might be asymptomatic carriers, but that just means we need to all continue wearing masks even after being vaccinated until we hit acceptable "herd immunity" levels to shut down the spread that way.
     
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