I'm happy they went that route with Scylla rather than the way they made Bit and KISS who has a killer hacker profile with Kiss not being a repeater and a no-hacking-device-only-upgrades and repeater KISS. Seems messy.
Machoan won big with the addition to SI to a lot of stuff including himself. Hector changed in a way thats a massive win for the sectorial overall. and aside form the obvious ones already pointed out are the basic 20 point ekdromoi and thats mostly off the back of scylla. drop a few of these in to your opponent's DZ on 16s and watch them make a mess.
Machaeon lost his regular smoke though. The triple-duty by being a lieutenant, good specialist and smoke dispenser for my MSV troops is no longer a thing. The Ekdromoi are amazing now. Both the 20pt boy and the 25pt hacker are wonderful. Personal fan of the hacker since it still can have a presence after failing the jump through repeater.
He never had it, it was always eclipse its what made him so good, being able to get under MSV Aros with a myrm team without needing to pay for trash like eudoros. and being in a Myrm team if you want to smoke for stuff let the normal guys do it. not really, their strength is being cheap AD warbands essentially.
You take those words about Eudoros back you. He's a sweet boy who's now stolen the lieutenant role from Machaeon in many of my future lists due to being a specialist with a better kit.
He's expensive with subpar performance and doesn't have a relevant specialist type and loses out to the spitfire myrmidon 9 times out of ten, also he is a fireteam point with number 2 which is pointless. Machaon is superior in pretty much everyway, and providing he is still alive can quite easily (and has on multiple occasions) resurrect an entire fireteam while under eclipse. Don't understand how anyone can give that up unless they are upgrading to hector.
He can top them off so that they stay out of NWI, also a bunch of objective have bonuses for doctors and then theres the classifieds, and in those teams you probably have hector heading it as the main gunner, who also loses having his own personal doctor.
MA3 were always superior in N3 - except when trying to hit stationary objects. Achilles loss is that he is outclassed or simply on par with most of the CC units out there after being in the top3. Pat has gone from being an Achilles-clone to being his own man. A fast HMG, Throwing smoke and pushing buttons. He now has something to offer in a Duo, where he can pave the way for a more assault Oriented Achilles, then switch into pushing buttons as you hit the enemy Lines. Moreover he is effective vs MSV where Achilles struggle. And he is still fairly defensive with W2 and dodging/smoking on 16s. Plus there aren’t many HMGs in the ASS, and this one is a high quality hidden HMG. - But I’m gonna miss my mini-Achilles, doing all the murdering while the opposition is all concerned with the big guy threatening the other flank.
Achilles was not in the top 3 by the end of N3, but he really hasn't changed in position in N4. He's not Shinobu / Musashi (but he never should have been), and Ajax is a much better CC piece point for point, but Valkyrie is still probably the most consistently powerful CC unit because of her Total Immunity on top of Berserk, MA3, NBW and an EXP CCW. IIRC there were a few other edge cases where MA4 was the right choice, if you had to deal several wounds in one order, for example, and against some very high ARM ranges.
I thought patroclus recived +1 to ARM stats, but he has in fact stayed the same. MI to HI and same ARM value. Well that is weird.
He has a Duo. Make him and his dance partner B2B with the objective, and Achilles gets B2 on melee... And hits harder. The K1 gives range over the Feuerbach, and has a use for Triangulated Fire... So essentially a post in a tower in a corner of your LZ and forget about moving him much. The K1 is now Dam13 (+1 from N3), and getting shock means 1W models not inmunne will die easily on a B2 BS11 attack (possibly under smoke), and heavily armored ones will suffer. The Feuerbach is better... more or less... but costs more, and the panoplies on ITS12 can give TAGs inmunity TOTAL, or AP, so the K1 might not be that much of a bad option, because it's the only way to reduce armor to an AP Inmunne TAG the greeks have (otherwise... Ajax, Achilles, Hector... need to go melee, if you deployed any of them). Before Eudoros was the escort of the CoC myrm officer. Now he has graduated to maybe run his own gang of three (counting him) while she does the same and Phoenix and Machaon move around with one... (or deploy them as 2 teams of 4 and a spare myrm), but otherwise he is the crowd control of the heroes (MA4 => CC23 +3/-3 with DAM 16 on a DA weapon; or the Nanopulser +1R). The difference between HI and MI was fuzzy because of Ariadna's "HIs" (aside from Ratnik and Blackjack I mean); on the other factions it was more of a matter of MI moving 10/5 (and then came the Yadu XD), and the HI having 2 wounds (and then, Invencible came). That being said, Patroclus is closer to an Asura Lhost than anything (less advanced, but easier to pass as human) and ARM3 is in the border between MI and HI... but he got BTS 6, bigger weapons (Achilles has trouble holding on his weapons between battles... most break or jam XD), and much better mobility (dodging on 16, and you can expose echoes to draw enemy fire... he can pass as 3 troops of 16pts without raising much suspicion, or up to 18 if he's toting the HMG). Damn. Patroclus MULTI can pass as 3 LML Thorakitai in vanilla and be off by just 2 points... XD
Look, you can fawn over poster-boy Achilles and his golden mane, chase Eudoros with his bad boy attitude and the leathers, or keep sending fan mail to Phoenix with the 80s bravado and the Chuck Norris beard... but Machaon it's the one you want to marry. He's the reliable guy, the one that gets the mission done while the others are going for the kill. He's such a bro that your dog will like him more than you the first time he goes by your house, and your mother will keep asking you how he's doing even if she's only seen him once. He has a career, sweetie, he's a doctor.
So, the big question. Do you take Ajax with FD or do you stick him in an Enomotarchos with Machadon and two Myrmidibros?
Put in phoenix or hector and you have the 1000 punches fireteam Enviado desde mi Mi A1 mediante Tapatalk
To be fair, we all know Machaon's reliability and huge medical expertise comes from bashing other people to pulp. And his title? He bashed the teachers. Then the title's owner. To be fair, I find the FD Ajax too expensive, but seems designed to be deployed in SF if you go second. Also, you *can* deploy him forward and linked, with careful measuring.
I'm not talking from experience, since I need to use Meat Boy in N4, however: I would say FD is not worth the price you're paying for it. If you're on the reactive first turn, you want him linked where he can cover low distance ARO bands, and if you're going first, you want to advance under the cover of smoke or linked so you can benefit from cover and increased burst before you make the enemy taste the meaty hammer of justice. That's how monarchy works, so I don't find any objections there.
depends on the mission, if youre playing something like looting and sabotage take FD ajax as a guided missile to throw up the table to either make a hole in their defenses or to break the AC2 if he makes it that far. then follow up with the usual myrm team.
