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RemDriver and Assisted Fire

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Tongfa, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Tongfa

    Tongfa ULTRA INSTINCT UKR

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    1. Can a RemDriver ever reassign their Rem bonuses, or are they locked in? i.e. On deployment, an Aspara gives her bonuses to the Dakini Linked MSR. Can she ever assign her Rem bonuses to the Dakini HMG?

    2. Can a Remote be affected by Remdriver bonuses, Assisted Fire and Link bonuses all at the same time?


    REMDRIVER DEPLOYMENT SKILL
    Optional
    Effects
    • When deploying the owner of this Special Skill, the player will place a REMDRIVER Token beside a Remote already deployed on the game table.
    • A Remote possessing a REMDRIVER Token will benefit from the MODs appearing in round brackets in the Unit Profile of the owner of this Special Skill.
    • The player will remove the REMDRIVER Token at the end of the Order in which the owner of this Special Skill enters any Null state.
    • A Remote cannot have more than one REMDRIVER Token.
    ASSISTED FIRE ENTIRE ORDER
    Supportware, No Roll.
    Requirements
    • The target must be a REM from the same Army List as the user, and must be inside the user's Hacking Area.
    Effects
    • Assisted Fire grants the target REM the Marksmanship Special Skill.
    • When the user activates this Program, which does not require a Roll, place an Assisted Fire Token (SUP: ASSISTED FIRE) beside the user and beside the REM.
    • Once activated, this Program's range covers the entire game table
     
  2. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    1. No, it is locked so, no changes

    2. Yes, you can because it is not a supportware. I think the reason is because of the previous question change
     
  3. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    yeah its fun having the defensive rem diver (+1arm, +3 physical amd +9 cc) + marksmanship supportware on a ruda gunbot. (becomes 22cc [-3 para ccw] 12bs, 13PH, 12wip, 5arm 6bts)

    micro tank ftw!
     
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  4. Tongfa

    Tongfa ULTRA INSTINCT UKR

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    Wow that's wild. Big change for Aspara.
     
  5. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    unless your using it in the OSSS, i found an aspra is overpriced compared to the remdiver
     
  6. Tongfa

    Tongfa ULTRA INSTINCT UKR

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    I missed that exception for the Aspara to the Vedic sectorial, was it in one of the annexes? What if the Aspara is in Vanilla Aleph?
     
  7. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    The Apsara has a fairly excessive 1 SWC tax in Vanilla that makes it even more overprized there. Its only role currently is stacking modifiers on a core linked Dakini in OSS.
     
  8. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    or turn the total reaction remote into bs 13 in secotrial
     
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  9. Iver

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    It's just frustrating to lose the bonus for the rest of the game when the target goes unconscious even if you fix the robot up again. The Apsara is not great utility late game. The RemDrivers at least have deployable repeaters to fill some sort of role.
     
  10. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    no, if the robot goes null but is repaired, it doesn't loose it. Is the apsaras who, if goes null, removes the token, even if it is healed later
     
  11. Iver

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    Oh? I have read that wrong then. I was sure the RemDriver bonus would be lost if the target went unconscious.
     
  12. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    I also thought that, but someone pointed me wrong. It is lost if "the owner of the skill" gets to null state. The owner is the remdriver, while the remote only gets a token.
     
  13. Iver

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    I still have a hard time justifying paying 22pts for essentially just giving 2 extra BS to a Zayin or Dakini in my mind. I wanna like the Apsara so bad since it has such a great model, but she seems so expensive for what she adds to a gameplan.
     
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  14. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    that's out of rules question, but I think the problem was that they were too good and cheap in n3, and CB maybe went too far with the nerf. It could get an option for relocating the remdriver token by spending a command token for example...but by herself, they work for deffending a bit DB, and they can also put WIP14 in a dakini specialist, making it a BS13, wip 14 mimetic specialist
     
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