Hey all, I have been struggling to see the point of a bronze for its very high cost. Has anyone used them to any great effect? or have any ideas on how to use this model?
He seems to have two uses that I can think of. He can be a very durable roadblock that is difficult to remove. Or you can use him offensively against an enemy that is relying on flash pulse for defense. Being able to ignore 2-3 flash pulse remotes and just run forward can be pretty useful.
he's alright, certainly not useless. He's a bit of a tough sell because of his lack of high power weapons, he does have alot of resilience though
I am little disappointed with the bronze. A cool looking model, but in vanilla atleast I see no reason to use him, there are better options.
In Vanilla tha Gamma is better and cheaper if you want a tanky HI with good Shooting. Maybe in Starmada 10 Order lists in Duo or Haris with Parvati to keep him alive, shoot your way to an objektive and keep it. he should be hard to remove for your opponent if he goes in Supressive Fire in the middle of the table with 360-visor. But damn, his model looks cool. But for active shooting a Beta in a haris should work better.
Any specialist profile is great to get an objective and keep it long enough. Resilience and high cost are a plus for cost-base control objectives. Anyway, I find it pretty overcosted and under-weaponed.
He's a good choice for a bottom of two/top of three suppression unit in the midfield holding a button. the decent armor and total immunity means he will take some effort to shut down. I'd expect if ITS 12 moves more mission and less killy as anticipated he will have an important place.
If you want something to hang back and provide fire support from the DZ sure and which case the Omega dies it better, but both are kinda shit at CQB in the midfield or assaulting the other side of the table and that's where this thing excels. It loves getting in close with a MR and fighting in that 0-16 range or trading hits in favour of gluing something, and then being obnoxious to remove once it's there. Gama and Omega are fire support artillery, the Bronze is a line breaker.
i like his operative profile. its a mid range jack of all trades master of none unit with everyone's fav annoyance glue. remember when not fighting natural born warrior units they are fighting you at -9 cc with para weapon :P
Gamma is pretty usefull in the midfield with high ARM, PH14 an B3 heavy bistol, much more utility than Omega or Bronze.
I really like the Spec Op Multi Rifle profile. If you can deliver him to the midfield, he’s going to be very hard to shift off anything he wants to protect.
Quick thoughts: The bronze is designed to be an assault tank vs ammo. With total immunity (TI) he will not care vs AP, EXP or K1, all of which are going to become more and more prized during the initial part of N4. With there red furry being power 14 and decent cc they want to get close. The specialist profile how ever use there TI to make sure that they can get to where they need to be. The climbing plus feeds into there mobility and assault capability because now they can get odd fire lanes. Treat a Bronze as a more durable Beta if you have a lot of MSV in your meta and you would be about right. MSV MSR snipers do not like the Bronze as they can not kill him in one shot. What does not work: 360 visor is odd on him because it is for defensive models and I would not say that a Bronze is designed for being a road block as it lacks low burse high damage/ap/or multiple hit weapons (Missile Launchers and Feuerbach). With the exception of a Gamma the armaments of O-12 is geared to mass die rolls offenses (Spitfires and HMG) The Bronze can do cc but outside of a pistol he will not kill you there but will make your life a pain with EM or Para weapons. In fire teams: If you can move with in 24 inches of the enemy a Bronze is a solid point man that is hard to remove. For cheap haris/core go with Blue Coats, they are not the stars but the extra burst makes every encounter with the Bronze Red Furry that much scarier. Beta troopers I feel should skip the Bronze as a Bronze does not add much. If you like the Nyoka model or profile but find you need to possible have a module that boost the survivability of the point man a Bronze is nice. 2 Bronzes, nothing said that button/midfield is mine like 4 TI wounds walking into hell but I would probably not do this fire team. If I did I would do probably 1 Bronze Red Furry and Pavarti for pure reliability and tenacity or 2 Bronze Red Furry and tell my enemy try to dislodge me. The big draw to the Bronze is nothing will kill him with 1 hit and that is where they really win out. All and all I find the Bronze fills a whole in the HI section well, that being a assault HI. I would wish they had a DA CCW, bigger gun, or grenades but I am not to worried about that. If you could not guess I feel the first Bronze should be the Red Fury currently but the other 2 weapon kits are also good.
EM CCW combines Normal and EM ammo, so each failed half BTS roll causes a wound in addition to the Isolation and potential IMM states. Arguably one of the best CCWs in the game at the moment, and better than a DA CCW vs the vast majority of targets.
The 360 visor stops him from getting ganked from behind when he is up the table, also really good when the Bronze is in supressive fire it becomes a hard to dislodge turret. You really dont need low B with ammo type weapons to be an effective roadblock. The Bronze packs a MULTI Rifle on most of it's good profiles and the HSG on the others (RF is a trap) with a heavy riot stopper, here is your AP/DA for multiple saves and an adhesive template on a model you cant really sneak up on. it can be real difficult to dislodge from a spot in close quarters.
I find that multi rifles and shotguns for defense really depends on the board. Most boards are good if you play ground level vs ground level but braking fire lanes down when you have groups on multiple levels is often a bit trickier. I would still like someone other then the Gamma to have a Feuerbach or a Missile Launchers but we may see that in the next one or later this year.
Dumb question probably, but does total immunity also apply to states imposed by hacking? (E.g. isolated) or is it only from weapons.
PLEASE READ THE RULEBOOK (or at least the 165465464646 post on the same topic). Immunity AS A SKILL does not apply to Comms Attacks. All hackings are Comms attack.
