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Thoughts on N4 OSS

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Teslarod, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. El tito Zylito

    El tito Zylito Active Member

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    god, a naga with deployable repeater is my wet dream

    its sad OSS is one of the worst sectorials in repeater network.. even haqqsilam has humzakut with deployable repeater.............
     
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  2. RolandTHTG

    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    We also tend to have more expensive hackers, so only the Mk1, Asura khd, and the Danavas feel like they can "trade up" as someone mentioned earlier. But, for instance, our best KHDs are on the Asura and Shakti, which can go bad quickly with a poor roll.
    While a deployable repeater would be fun, I found myself wishing that one of the garudas had a repeater earlier, as a way to surprise drop one into the enemy lines.


    For other OSS list building, do people have any Bounty Hunters they recommend? The regular ABHs can form pretty cheep duos, which a wildcard can join or Sforza can join an abh duo under holomask. Have people tried any of these, or have n3 based tricks they remember?
     
  3. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    There's s thread where I asked about the strengths of our mercenaries relative to our own troops.

    https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/mercenaries.37938/

    Someone mentioned that the Authorized Bounty Hunter with the sniper is our only long range option at 0.5 SWC.
    I think we have better active pieces so running them in duos doesn't make much sense compared to our Haris options though.
    They are a cheap haris option which might be interesting to explore, however. (and rolling for booty is fun)

    Edit: oh, they only have haris on their profile in vanilla
     
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  4. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    At least its not the Druze. Amazing repeater coverage on remotes, with terrible hackers that you are practically obliged to play in your fireteam. Those repeaters become a hazzard.
     
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  5. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Right of the bat, add Baggage. And upgrading the Combi rifle to a SMG to make her cheaper, or a MULTI rifle to better show combat applications of the Mother Forge. Add some perimetral options, and a syncro option with a Devabot or Kiranbot... Golden combat engineer who likes to seed the table with stuff.

    Even the +0/+2'' in MOV the Sophotect has over Parvati is anecdotic: Parvati has both SuperJump and links as a wildcard. I'm quite dissatisfied with how CB is treating ol' Sofie: first, the video showing her able to link, then the release without linkability, then Trisha gets a profile in OSS able to link (so great, to shore a Dakini link in a Limited Insertion list, with the Mk1 doctor roaming free)... Then Parvati arrives here and to Starmada and becomes a "must use in link"...



    The 12pts SMG one is quite appealing for a Dakini link (that has 1-2 Dakinis at most XD).
    The Sniper, as mentioned, is cheap in SWC
     
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  6. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    Bounty hunters can't join the Dakini link though
     
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  7. RolandTHTG

    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    Unfortunately, I think you're mixing the ABHs and CSUs, only the CSUs can be added to Dakini links.
     
  8. BlackCadian

    BlackCadian Well-Known Member

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    So, with the Apsara having sadly fallen by the wayside what‘s the plan for our graceful murderbots?

    a) Take an EVO instead
    b) Shed a tear and move on, our Dakini link is still good without buffs
    c) ?
     
  9. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking over the trade up options in OSS and see the following
    • Andromeda can easily trade up vs a HI or Tag
    • Posthumans trade non-order generators for order generators
    • Arjunas have Kiranbots that can be sacrifices for E/marat
      • Kiran bots have Cybermines that need a reset to avoid. If you can maneuver it you can have an opponent stuck taking the mines or a BS shot. You can't avoid the mine and BS shot in the same order.
    • Devabots are cheaper than virtually anything.
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  10. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Move Apsaras to buff the Total Reaction Bot, or to a single Dakini HMG/Sniper in a Fireteam Core. For defense, add the Missile Launcher remote and fill the fireteam as desired, but yeah, this one is harder to make.
    Use Yadu HMG as point for a Core or Haris, with Rudras/Devas/Yadus/Parvati as partners. Or the HRL as defensive option.

    We have more Fireteam: Core options than White Banner (they have TWO!!! Oo) and more wildcard troops thanks to all Deva profiles.
     
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  11. Devil_Tiger

    Devil_Tiger Your Friendly Neighborhood Asura

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    Hah i was thinking of that today, give the Sophotect Baggage, deployable repeaters, some sort of mines. I love the idea of the Sophotect as a "builder" trooper, and would also give a bit more options for deploying repeaters than bots or Danava's pitcher.
     
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  12. Heyzuse

    Heyzuse New Member

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    Wait I'm confused as to how this interaction would work. If the Rudras is your active piece or team leader when you move it into range of the enemy hacker, can't the enemy hacker choose to aro vs the remote or choose to hack into the repeater as an ARO? And then how are you activating the asura at the same time to hack "uncontested" when the Rudras is currently the active model?
     
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  13. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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  14. Hannibaliafun

    Hannibaliafun Active Member

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    I think the Asura might also generate an aro. It activated that order and is now in the hacking zone of the hacker. I think that means it is a valid aro target.
     
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  15. Heyzuse

    Heyzuse New Member

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    Couldn't the hacker just aro against the Asura by hacking through the repeater?
     
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  16. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    post human mk 3 has an AP spitfire! they actually viable choice over a mk4 hmg

    also disappointed that yadu FO combi rifle option was removed, just half finished painting its model when n4 was released...
     
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  17. Iver

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    They still have a FO multi-rifle though.
     
  18. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    yeah but n3 FO combi yadu was (4 points) cheaper than stock multi rifle yadu
     
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  19. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    But yeah, the MK3 sounds like a fun troop to use now. I think i'll try it out my next game this weekend. Solid midrange HI that can be played aggressively since its death won't lose an order.
     
  20. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Nope.

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