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What will Onyx become in N4?

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by paraelix, Aug 31, 2020.

  1. Lesh'

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    it turned out that greif operators beside getting cheaper by one point (really excited about that), also now can re-impersonate, as there's no such thing as inferior impersonation, and there's nothing in imp-2 state that prevents you from re-impersonating. oh man oh man, that's great!
     
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  2. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member

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    Now that i've slept and changes are more solid in my head, i'll say it, i think that Onyx is really fine by now.

    Lots of solo pieces, nice links and good options. @ijw , i'm gonna bite my tongue and say that Samaritans are ok now with the imm(shock), i guess that my expectations were higher, and that's it. I just wanted to be able to play more games to test all this changes!

    The only problem is that i can't put everything i want in my lists while staying inside the 300pts bracket
     
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  3. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Ooooh yeah, I feel you there!
     
  4. Pander22

    Pander22 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone been trying the suryat haris?
    Ive built a few lists around the below

    Suryat LT2 hmg
    Kernau
    Either hrl suryat or kodali

    Then a small core of
    Norkias
    Hmg rhodok
    Cheap rhodok filler

    Or even a unidron link if you want more orders,
    So glad they finally suryats have harris and arent so generic anymore

    Big cheap links arent normally my thing, but i did make a 17 and 18 order list for a bit of fun, Onyx seems pretty flexible and ive enjoyed making lists for them even more than starco, forco and correg

    Now i just need to get some tags into losts
     
  5. Sergei Simonov

    Sergei Simonov Well-Known Member

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    Nice catch. Did they have MSV1 in N3? Because I didn't think they did and that seems pretty relevant as well.

    Budget speculo is a go. Onyx can now do a cheap version of the 'Avatar combo' while keeping fireteams and two noctifers
     
  6. Sabin76

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    Yes they did.
     
  7. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Yup. Which is why they were amazing at taking out Dakini fireteams.
     
  8. Time Bandit

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    Man I play a Grief in most lists and that feels like a huge buff to them! I tended to leave them lurking as long as possible as they were one-hit wonders but now they can return to impersonate that's a big deal.

    Also really excited by the Umbras. I loved the HD+ Legate as a do-it-all piece but he died so easily if you put a foot wrong, or failed a mine dodge. Am I right in saying that Cybermask no longer requires a roll now too? His ability to shore up a unidron core is icing on the cake.
     
  9. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Yes, Cybermask is now automatic.
     
  10. Pipboy

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    I just realized K12 Multi rifle is D14 for a Xeodron. That is some punch against almost everyone.
     
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    You’re right - DAM +1 boosts work on K1 now! That’s really big.
     
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  12. HardDisk

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    Yeah, vs everything with armor 2+ K1 on the Xeodron is better than dmg15 now, i really can't choose between that K1 or Multi!
    the Red Fury can be good for the higher burst at least!
     
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  13. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Unidrons gained Discover (+3) and Dodge (+1") last army update. That's... interesting.
     
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  14. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    And CC13, up from 5.
     
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  15. JordanJoestar

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    Since we can get Fiday'd like everyone else now, it's nice to have some sort of countermeasure I suppose.
     
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  16. toadchild

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    Vanguards did get some buffs, but I feel like they still compare poorly to other core troops in CA. Lower WIP was the one weakness of Unidrons, and now they’re suddenly one of the better all-around marker discovery units in the faction.
     
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  17. BlackCadian

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    Can the LT use his orders in links now? That’s great, I think I‘ll give your first link a go in my next game!

    I also like Red Fury Xeo + Samaritan + Kerr-Nau. B5 for medium-long range, B4 plasma for medium range and the Vorpal for close range - everything covered! CC, too obviously :)
     
  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    No, but Nourkias has NCO so can use the Lieutenant Orders.
     
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  19. BlackCadian

    BlackCadian Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I didn’t see that, sweet!
     
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