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Booty and CAMO State

Discussion in 'Rules' started by m2cat, Oct 5, 2020.

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  1. m2cat

    m2cat Active Member

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    Nomads have Bandits. Bandits have Booty and Camouflage Special Skills.
    Haw to combine them during deployment phase, especially when Nomads player has more Camouflaged troopers?

    Booty is Deployment skill, so a roll is aught during Deployment phase. But Camouflage says that trooper profile hidden in Marker state is closed information. If Nomads player rolls secretly, opponent can challenge that roll.

    How to handle this?
     
  2. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    It's public when you use the skill. Same as rolling for Infiltrate, you need to tell your opponent which marker is rolling and why it's rolling a dice.
     
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  3. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Yes. They will still know it is Bandit inside that Camo, there is no way around it. They just donĀ“t know WHICH profile of Bandit until you reveal.
     
  4. Icchan

    Icchan Well-Known Member

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    Do you have to specify which camo marker, if you have several?
    For example, would stating "One of my camo markers has the Booty skill, so I'll roll for it now, observe" be considered legal?
    You hardly ever could hide the presence of the Bandit because of it's impetuousness, but at least you could hide which marker it was.
     
  5. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    "Different actions a Trooper may declare are called Skills. There are two types of Skills:
    Common Skills, that any Trooper can declare, and Special Skills, that can only be
    declared by those units which list the Special Skill in their Unit Profile."

    You gotta declare the skill which means declaring who's using it.
     
  6. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    As much as I would like that to be the case, and could even try to talk about it as a home ruling, RAW as Triumph says you need to declare which trooper is using the Booty skill.
     
  7. Icchan

    Icchan Well-Known Member

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    I'm inclined to agree, though it makes me a tiny bit sad. :disappointed_relieved:
     
  8. JoKeR

    JoKeR HAWZA Instructor
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    I must admit Booty is Optional skill. if you not want - you can forfeit to use it.


    WHAT???
     
  9. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    I do believe he was talking about the Bandit being Irregular, which means that when you declare the group containing a Camo marker has an Irregular order in the pool, it telegraphs one camo marker is a Bandit. And you have two, you have two Bandits. There is no other irregular camo capable troop in CJC.
     
  10. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    Bandits are not impetuous
     
  11. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Icchan pretty clearly wrote Impetuous by mistake, instead of Irregular:

     
  12. Icchan

    Icchan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, meant Irregular, brainfarted impetuous, sorry.
     
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