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N4 Yu Jing; the good the bad the ugly

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Mahtamori, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Hit mode has +1 DMG as well ;)
     
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  2. darthchapswag

    darthchapswag Shandian Strike Team

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    Not currently in the app :disappointed_relieved:. Still almost always worse than template though due to cover (except in the aforementioned case when you can't drop a template)
     
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  3. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Why is that? You still have to declare a main target which can benefit from cover.
     
  4. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    You can't get the Damage reduction bonus for Cover against a template.
     
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  5. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    So hit mode is really only useful against single targets that are not in partial cover?
     
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    It's also necessary in case the target is positioned near allied or neutral troops- Template attacks that would hit non-enemies are cancelled, so if there was no hit mode you couldn't fire into a melee or hit an enemy standing next to a civilian, among other situations.
     
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  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Long Ya had one of the Panzerfausts converted into a Flammenspeer. It's got roughly HMG range bands and can burn Fireteams to a crisp. I've lost quite a few Zuyong to Helot LRL so that's what I mean. Weapons got upgraded hard, even if it overlaps with the Hundun significantly.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Seems they fixed the Yan Huo Neuro profile so that it works. (With a small beneficial consequence to the Heavy Pistol)

    FIX LIST
    Yan Hou – Changed the MOD on the Neurocinetics profile.​
     
  9. zapp

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    The Hundun is on another level with the Hidden Deployment shot that it can place on a linkteam unexpected.
     
  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. It's fairly close in damage and hit potential, but I'm of half mind to see if I can construct a list where I can somehow motivate my opponent to move their Fireteam on the other side of the table using Long Yas, into one or several Hundun. A nonsensical EVO Hacker might be enough to convince my opponent that the missing SWC are Tigers
     
  11. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Oh, that's an Impact Template not a Direct Template, that's why I was confused I thought you were referring to the Heavy Shotgun having an HMG rangeband.
     
  12. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Missing SWC could also be a Kunai MSR!

    ... Yeah, I guess not.
     
  13. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]
     
  14. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Truth be told, I didn't think much of the Kunai either but Climbing+ and getting cover by default, merely being on higher ground, have made the MMR profile surprisingly good in my lists.
    It's very good to hunt down chaff and/or weak/obvious Lt's like those in CJC, O-12 and Onyx.
     
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  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I am known for liking my Hidden shenaniganery, but I wouldn't want them thinking there's a Kunai near, either
     
  16. Jumara

    Jumara Well-Known Member

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    Well I see the Kunai especially usefull in ISS as they feel inherent weak in taking second turn.
     
  17. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Started that OP restructuring I mentioned earlier (instead of sleeping...)
     
  18. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Ditto this, since the hacking threat is more meaningful, the 'real' TO Camo unhackable guy with C+ really fits the bill by pecking people from midlines. It does work great!

    Not a fan of MSR, though.
     
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  19. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Was just thinking how Lunah can now force a -12 at range pretty easily, which was rare in imperial service, by pulling a surprise shot through smoke. She'll be hitting on 10s with triangulated fire which is not ideal but still a new tool.
     
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  20. Triumph

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    Realistically what would you use that against? Linked AROs ignore the -9 from smoke and surprise attack, and TR bots well you can -12 them without using the smoke anyway.
     
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