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DBS in N4

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by Cannon Fodder, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. AssaultUnicorn

    AssaultUnicorn KTS is the best unit

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    Huh, I see that now. Strange that they included all other wildcards in the builder but not Bounty Hunters.
     
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  2. jfunkd

    jfunkd hard forum hittin Carlos
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    There are a lot of bugs in Army right now.
     
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  3. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    When I started DBS I wanted to do a remote heavy list which they can provide. But the repeater coverage which looks great turns into a hindrance. You want to use the hackers in the link, but the repeaters became a way to target them easily. They should have added something to make their hacking better. With the removal of old overclock (2b in ARO to all repeaters) be benefit of the repeaters diminished and the weakness stayed.

    I'm still not sure about the targeted in ARO mechanic, it may have some merit.
     
  4. kesharq

    kesharq Lucky Dice-Roller

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    My try at a Druze List for my first N4 Game - Opponent will be Bakunin. .

    - Cheap Fireteam core with lots of heavy weapons (Druze LGL/Brawler HRL/ABH Sniper/ABH Red Fury/Clipper) for ARO
    - offensive Haris with Arslan Lt/Druze KHD/Druze for Button pushing
    - Bulleteer Shotgun / Peacemaker Shotgun / Pathfinder / Fugazi / EVO Kameel / 2x Hunzakut FO for hunting and button pushing.

    I still have to decide on what troops go in each group though.
     
  5. TheDiceAbide

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    I actually think that the regular Druze are still very desirable. I don't care for links that are packed with throwaway units, because they really suffer poorly from attrition, I'd probably include 3 Druze in a 5-man core any time I use one, the last two members being Brawlers or ABH, depending on what's needed in the unit. What I'm really excited about are the possibility of two 3-man Druze units, one Core and one Haris, now that we don't pay the awful 1 SWC DEP Haris tax.
     
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  6. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    I agree thats a good way to go about mix linked. Its either a "cheap" 1 HI + 4 LI link or a 3 elites + 2 cheapos link.
     
  7. HayDOS

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    Sorry if this is a redundant question, is there a model for Wolfgang yet or announced? cant seem to find reference to one.
     
  8. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Nope, the sectorial charts preview for Corregidor was the first anyone saw any of it.
     
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  9. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    Wolfgang might have a role for midpresence cleaning when the bulleteer is dead not a lot of 2W in DBS

    What do you think of this list:
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    this is the killing list, the less killy is same but with saito specialist in G2 so he can do some button thing

    now we can mix brawler and druze, I really don't get why druze are so expensive next to the brawler for similar raw stats
     
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  10. AmPm

    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    Druze should have come down 2pts or so, or received an upgrade to let them act as gunfighters.

    As I told my opponent last night, the Druze themselves mostly just lend a name to the faction, then sit back and let everything else do the work. Well, except for the LGL, the LGL puts in work.
     
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  11. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

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    I think Wolfgang is gonna be my main pointman in the fireteam once the hmg helps me get to the midfield. Definitely agree that druze all around should be about 2 or 3 points cheaper. Arslan should have been 30-32 points.
     
  12. sagara981

    sagara981 New Member

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    Greetings to all of you and I apologize in advance for my inaccurate English. I would like to start this sector, beautiful mercs! I left N3 about 3 years ago. I was playing PanO but I bought the pack of Druze and Brawlers, Miranda and Armand. I don't particularly like REM in general, reading various interventions seem "vital". I wanted to ask you, is this sector viable with no REM or a maximum of a couple? I wanted to get the pack of Bashi, the Hunzakut and Saito. Can they be played at 300 points with the additions I would like to take? Thanks in advance for the help.
     
  13. AmPm

    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    REMs are fairly key to Druze.
     
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  14. sagara981

    sagara981 New Member

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    Which REM in particular? Wanting to limit them to a maximum of a couple, what do you recommend? Thanks again.
     
  15. Capo.Paint

    Capo.Paint Well-Known Member

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    In the old DBS, I have seen Fugazis, Pathfinders, a Peacemaker and an EVO-Kameel as totally necessary. This has changed now, but it is only an early statement. Now, a Peacemaker and a Bulleteer together with an EVO is a solid pick, while Patfinders dropped in their overall use.
     
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    Peacemaker is a forward-deploying spitfire with a flamer auxbot, which is handy for solving all sorts of problems. I'm interested to try using a command token to start the game with it in suppressive fire.
     
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  17. Sigeric

    Sigeric Irregular WB

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    Hello y'all

    I've recently acquired some Druze and other mercs from a friend (who wanted to get rid of his 5th army, something about spouses and shelf space...), so I've been reading this part of the forum and tinkering with lists. I enjoy playing with the underdog factions, so I think Druze is a good fit for me.

    From what I've been reading here, Druze is more or less expected to go for spotlight+guided missile and Scarface with the MSV2 Brawler, Valerya, and KHD Druze as staples of the list... if we're looking for top performance, that is. Keeping that in mind:

    - Is there a case for fielding the Anaconda+Brawler engineer instead of Scarface & Cordelia? I want to try an 8/7 list fielding both TAGs, but the Scarface package is so much better that I don't see any incentive to pick the Anaconda over it.
    - What do you think of the humble panzerfaust druze? For me it's a solid all-around profile capable of some serious damage, and an excuse to field more druze in their damn army.
    - I appreciate the inclusion of Wolfgang (rather than, say, Wild Bill), but I don't know what he's doing there (lore-wise) or if he's the point-man of choice for most of you.
    - Anyone had any success with the Kunai?
    - This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone should give Arslan a goddamn jacket, I can't believe the KHD chick is the only one sporting it, and I don't buy his tactical wife-beater is ARM 3.
     
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  18. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    I'd say Annie is there now as a budget TAG option, rather than as a competitor to Joe, she's the option if you want a high ARM HMG without the price tag and mandatory engineer.
    They're very versatile, providing a clutch long range ARO, DTW, viral pistol, and reasonably good stats. The problem is that they're paying for being a little better than average in all areas and that really adds up in points. If they get used during a game they can be great, but if all they do is fill a link and provide an Order they can feel overcosted. It's a tricky balance.
    Amadeus is a cyborg Wulver merc with few qualms about who he works for, so he's right at home with Druze. He's a good point man for a Haris with his extra burst Mulri rifle and great CC potential. He's the closest thing to a true HI in Druze and has good durability without being hackable. I really like him.
    Not tried them yet
    The armour is all under the vest, it's clearer from his comic appearance but the guy is chipping some serious chrome! Lots of subdermal plating and skin weave.
     
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  19. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Hello and welcome!

    The Anaconda is basically a budget TAG compared to Scarface. No AP on HMG range bands, slower MOV, STR 2, no [-3] against hacking etc. It is significantly cheaper, however, and your Brawler engineer can be part of a fire team, which helps with order efficiency. Cordelia doesn't have that luxury.

    Similarly, Scarface only comes with Cordelia, which might lead to issues with your 15 slot or combat group limit.

    Arslan is really an unfortunate sculpt. I hope he does get a general release down the line.
     
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  20. Sigeric

    Sigeric Irregular WB

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    Thanks for the info!

    I guess the Anaconda can also be used in a more suicidal role. Push with her until she pops out, leave her in suppressive fire and use the smoke cover to move other stuff around.

    I see. I'll make sure to add some dermal interfaces a la Cyberpunk when I paint him. Since Margot and her ARM 3 HI toned midsection and supple waist I've been having some trouble reconciling looks with profile.
     
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