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New N4 rules so far

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Space Ranger, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    I am quite optimistic here that they can adjust the level of 'morat-ness' of each morat unit, so the lower cost ones aren't saddled with as many costly rules.
     
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  2. Panzerschwein

    Panzerschwein Well-Known Member

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    ...again. Not ALL see it like you. GW don't interest me and what there players do. in the past when I am so unhappy like you with a company; I cancelt.
     
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  3. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Plus the flexibility in “Morat-ness” means we can have, for example, Vanguards that will stand their ground (Courage) plus fanatical Daturazi that must stand their ground (Religious) mixed in with Yaogat that shrug off wounds (NWI)... that’s a lot of possibility.
     
  4. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    This.

    I'd like them to remove the mandatory veteran and religious and do some more optimized and stream lined working. And repeating what I always said about Morats, make some troops Professional Soldiers, some Warriors, some Hunters and even some a combination of those.
     
  5. SpectralOwl

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    I suspect Veteran might bite the dust in N4, totally ignoring a class of attacks that is becoming increasingly common is both rather strong and doesn't match up with Infinity's design of layered soft counters instead of hard ones. CB have at least taken some effort to make sure Isolation and E/M isn't so miserable judging by Code One, so it may not be a huge loss anymore.
     
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  6. Gunmage

    Gunmage General Contact Unit

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    I thought neither of those exist in Code One...
     
  7. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    They're not
     
  8. SpectralOwl

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    They don't, but Code One handles similar states like Immobilize in a much kinder way than N3. It's a good system, so I don't see why it wouldn't carry over to N4 and the rest of the states.
     
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  9. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    "There are two kinds of people in the world; those who can extrapolate from incomplete data."

    Not that this extrapolation necessarily is correct, so we shall see.
     
  10. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    I might be late to the party on this one but it looks like knives aren't a thing any more?
     
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  11. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    What makes you say that?
     
  12. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    It does technically decrease the amount of shock in the game, it's almost certainly the least used of it though...
     
  13. SpectralOwl

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    It's a reasonable change. CC damage=PH is easier to remember than CC damage=PH-1, Shock, Silent, and it lets them remove the whole Silent rule without affecting anything but rare Bows. Makes me wonder if Bare Fists will still be around come N4 though.
     
  14. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Oniwaban in the corner crying
     
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, no profiles shown so far has knives. It's all CCWs.
     
  16. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    No Shock in C1 yet, N4 Profiles have Shock Immunity though.
    Pretty sure that's subject to change C1->N4.

    No more Knifes and no more Silent makes sense for streamlining so no surprise if Knifes go extinct.
     
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  17. RolandTHTG

    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    I wonder if the Silent weapon rule has now been rolled into the Stealth skill. We know that Stealth is still in the game from some Hassassin profiles, and it makes sense that silent kills are now restricted to people trained in them. That should mean its available to most martial artists, but not random troopers.
     
  18. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Would be interesting if they rolled the Alert-preventing function into Surprise Attack or Stealth
     
  19. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    How many actually used knives? I never did past N1.
     
  20. SpectralOwl

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    I know I didn't and most of my opponents didn't unless there was a Fiday on top of our troops. Usually if the game was stuffed to the point I was considering putting untrained troops into CC I just used Bare Hands for the sake of fun. I think a few of the fancier Ninja had a use for them, but otherwise most troopers don't have the Stealth, the CC and the positioning ability to make Knives anything more than a Shock CCW -1.
     
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