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N4 - is there a date?

Discussion in 'News' started by Varsovian, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    Ya, unless you go for the 10 point Boarding Shotgun profile. I'm glad they went with the profile equipment shuffle I suggested a while back.
     
  2. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Oh my, and they could have had fireteam bonuses before...? :face_with_rolling_eyes:
     
  3. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Maybe my sarcasm didn't come across?
     
  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    They couldn't get Fireteam bonuses before, either.
    What was horrible about them was that they had three really good, low effort, high impact weapons; E/M DTW, Jammer and Smoke Grenades. Now you'll need to choose one or fork out extra for the BSG profiles.

    If Fairy Dust is going the way of the Dodo, then I think we can only assume there'll be other sources of Firewall or that Technical Weapons can somehow function in a manner which gets you Firewall bonuses (such as through Repeaters).
     
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  5. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    I should've put "just" in italic or pink for sarcasm, I guess :D
     
  6. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    I would imagine it’ll be a function of multiple different sources of Firewall. Fairy Dust or a similar program, through Repeaters, as a native skill, from Tin Bots (assuming they’re still around as well).
     
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  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It'd still be nonsensical, you know.

    Person A "The changes to this unit is good and welcome"
    Person B sarcastically "It's so good that the only change is that they can't get Fireteam Bonus"
    Person A looks at how there is no longer a 5-point Jammer AND Smoke Grenade AND E/Marat profile and how a Haqq player has to pick ONE of those for 5 or 6 points. "The fuck are you on about, mate?"
     
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  8. Nimlothautle

    Nimlothautle Well-Known Member

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    So much this,the Ghazi fix is beautiful, and maybe AVA 4 is fair for Hassasins but AVA 2 would still be more than acceptable. Starmada showed the way with AVA 2 10 point warbands. Daylami, Inferior Grunts, Ghazis, Shaolins, Inferior MRRF dudes, Morlocks, etc... Why would a special forces teams have some many loose canon scum bags doing their own thing: UP the cost of Warbands and drop the AVA on spam-able units.

    I'm waiting to hear what the HB treatment is going to look like for CHA and USARF Corvus Belli! @Bostria Building lists is a headache with so many points left over.

    Rest of the video is great and those Hidden Deployment ODD Panzerfausts and Flammenspears are going to give me the good kind of headache when my opponents fields them! Maybe USA could get some some HD templates dudes to inflate my lists with? Don't even need to give them mimetism mods if you don't want ;)
     
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  9. Alfy

    Alfy Well-Known Member

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    - So I have a sorceress in a magical mist zone. She spawns and moves her baby dragon familiar and when it ends it’s movement, the base is half out of the mist and is spotted by a crossbowman. Does the baby dragon still get the +3 defensive bonus from the mist?
    - You activated the sorceress, not the familiar, the baby dragon is not technically a unit. If the activated unit is not spotted, the crossbowman can’t shoot.
    - Oh good. I’m really happy Corvus Belli did Eternity, it’s so much more interesting than Age of Sigmar.
     
  10. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    Ghazi were so good, I never ever needed to take more than two. Dropping the AVA would have been a good way, for all of the mentioned profiles, but then there would be an outcry because they mostly come in boxes.

    And yeah, if there would have alwys been just the BSG profile on Ghazis, the problem would have never been there with them.
     
  11. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Also in Tunguska. I'm expecting Smoke for IA now.
     
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  12. Nimlothautle

    Nimlothautle Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to feel bad for my Pan-o friend. Is there any reason anymore Pan-o can't get like 12 point Fusilier with smoke? Liang Kai with smoke? Part of what makes warbands so good is their are cheap and throw their smoke 'for free' with their impetuous order. Just start giving Pan-o slightly below par smoke like that. This is perfectly in line with factions like HB and Tunguska getting lower BS weaker guns on MSV2 platforms, or spiral corps getting weakly stat'd (other than 2W of course) inferior impersonation. These are all rich avenues for creativity. Cheap weak MSV3 platforms would be nice too.
     
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  13. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    I haven't been able to understand why PanO can't get smoke for ages now. Liang Kai shouldn't really be available for PanO tho, just give them something less YuJingesque, please; or release a mercenary rogue Templar available for everybody.
     
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  14. OrphanOfToast

    OrphanOfToast Heated Bread

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    Man, when I saw a shoalin character in WinterFor I was SUPER excited for the possibility of Pan-O smoke. Thankfully I have a miniature collecting problem and own plenty of smoke-throwing factions/sectorials.
     
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  15. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    Funny how Haqq as a low tech faction now got the second Sectorial that has BS 13 MSV2 and Smoke in the same link (if nothing changes with the profiles). A AP-Marksmanrifle for hard targets and a Heavy Pistol with +1 B for the softer stuff.
    That also nicely synergises with the Barid that can pull off Spotlight even better now for that LGL or give Yara an additional edge through Smoke or for the Asawira. A Ghulam Doc to round out the Ghulam Link. With the Muyib you dont even have to care if you lose the Ghulam and the Link Leader after that, because of Number 2 the Link stays active.
    Holy moly...
     
  16. SpectralOwl

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    Interesting stuff, a real look at breaking up the Warband monobuilds is great, firewall changes are intriguing and an set end date with specific release gives us something to look forward to. Fine work from CB.

    The spoiled profiles make me uneasy as an NCA player though. If even Hassassins get a wildcard elite HI and access to Hidden Deployed, Mimetism-6 pieces, what's left for the supposed Hyperpower? Are Swiss Guards being boosted to Mimetism -9 or something? Wildcard Fugazi? The suspense is painful! At least these studio updates are building hype.
     
  17. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    No, you just play your NCA as blue Hassassin, or viceversa, or Nomads as red Yu Jing, etc... it's not like playstyles differ much between factions anymore. It's curious, all these updates are killing my hype.
     
  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Actual Camouflaged state and Mimetism (-6)?
     
  19. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Unless Haqq are getting BS15 TO HMG with 2 wounds, the Swiss is still going to be a pinnacle unit!
     
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  20. SpectralOwl

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    That's just it, I don't even know! Bostria even said somewhere that he thought Hexas might be a good candidate to lose the Mimetism bit of TO Camo.
     
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