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New nomad unit in N4 ?

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by PurpleSquid, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    There's a lot of things changing in the game that indirectly buff TJC, best examples are the smoke +MSV1 change, the hacking changes we've seen so far, and potentially the shotgun change.
     
  2. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    We have no idea as to the meta state of the game.
     
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  3. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    We can assume that intruders will be 4-4, but if they continue beign the only MSV2, non-linkable and so expensive, we will remain behind in that aspect

    Remember that hollows have allready a normal haris. Is the kriza who has a weird (and one of the worst dessigned haris). Sad thing: stempler cannot go into a hollow haris, which is also a pity

    a lot of things seem that will be buffed, yes, but that's the same for us, and for all other factions, so I wouldn't say that it will make TJC better (all other factions will become "better" in that regard too)
     
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  4. Freki

    Freki Well-Known Member

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    One thing we have been seeing since code one was released is a picture detailing all the troops available and their links
    SWF - WB - KF - SM

    They have a very methodical approach. I suspect that a lot of current armies will be updated through that approach. And TJC notorious lack of wildcard reexamined. The design issue of TJC haris like the Kriza one hopefully will be rectified.
    TJC is even receiving a new unit so it means they identified a clear gap and won't just request a new sculpt and call it job done.

    I am fairly bullish on how all this.
     
  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I'm hoping they're like... the daughters of high-placed Tunguskan oligarchs who pay for cybernetic enhancements and form murder squads. Like a bunch of rich sorority girls out for blood.
     
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    theradrussian Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the old Necromunda Spyrers fluff....

    And I'd be 110% behind that.
     
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  7. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I'm hoping for something that makes them feel Tunguskan rather than a bit of Bakunin dropped in.

    "Get in loser, we're going killing" could be Tunguskan if presented right.
     
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  8. bakuninunbound

    bakuninunbound Well-Known Member

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    Others have mentioned it, but yeah, these do feel very "Bakunin" on a looks basis. I am hoping they are more, cruel-corporately-sponsored-goons (think sexy Pinkermen detectives) rather than anarchic punks. Either way, I am very excited for the models, as the concept art looks pretty cool.
     
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    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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  11. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    Not a fan.

    The MSV2 SMR is a waste of a profile and with the MSV1 changes there are better anti warband options and as a striker there are better pieces in the faction/sectorial.
    The spec op is just bad, SMG as a primary weapon without anything to allow it to be leveraged meaningfully from the DZ, just bad.
    Light shotgun maybe useful for point defense but I'd rather just have more securitate, the Veteran skill (should it remain) is just too good to give up.
    SMG, see the spec op profile, but its worse.
    The AP rifle with Multi Pistol, is interesting and possibly good, but sits right in a competitive points range for nomads.

    If they get access to some some interesting mixed Duos they could be worth the inclusion, but as it stands they're kinda not great.
     
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  12. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    Also as a side note it'd real great if they stop giving every model they spoil for N4 a Shock Marksman rifle. we already have an egregious over saturation of shock in the game such that doctors and NWI without immunities are worthless.
     
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  13. Papa_Legba

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    I hoped for something different and cheaper.
    Maybe they could haris with Perseus, who knows? A traditional smoke trick without -6.
    As a friend made me notice, they don't have Courage and Stealth.
     
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  14. Ephrilune

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    I must agree, the profile is a bit underwhelming. Dodge+3, MA1 and Super-Jump sounds good, but stat and weaponswise not really great. And I fail to see what role they should/could fill in Tunguska and Nomads in general.
     
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  15. Armihaul

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    I hope they are wildcard, that could make them interesting for some haris. Specially if perseus get now to haris with super-jump. If they can't and only get to haris between them, well, it will be our cheapest haris, but not sure how it could work. Also, they might be useful as a flank defenders with those templates, but nothing more. In vainilla I don't see place for them.
     
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  16. HarlequinOfDeath

    HarlequinOfDeath Tha Taskmastaaa
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    Cheering girls with stealth would be strange. ;)
     
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  17. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    No stranger than dudes in heavy power armour, mechsuits, and motorbikes.
     
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  18. Lucian

    Lucian Catgirl Nation

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    Oh, my. Quick! We need Nuada Airgetlam to tell us about all the hidden meanings of logo!

    Profile-wise - I'm confused. They are dirt cheap, with average weapons and above average stat-wise. The msv2 loadout is the most confusing part. Why won't they give this pricey equipment to a more reliable unit? Like, I dunno, Securitate? But hey, at least we can have something other that Intruder vs camo spam.
    I really hope actual models will have some kind of cyberlegs for super-jump. Maybe even cyber eyes for msv2.
     
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  19. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    I'd say one hidden meaning is whoever made the logo was lacking any ideas. That logo is just awfully bland. No further discussions needed.
    In the contrary the profiles look quite good. Nothing totally over the top but could be way worse.
    Considering the new Tactical Window default format one can build a solid specialist taxi haris for 59 - 53 points that's a bit less than 20 points per order
     
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  20. Lucian

    Lucian Catgirl Nation

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    Don't you see? It's THREE SEVENS!!! How can't you understand that this is *GASP* OUTRAGEOUS!
     
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