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New N4 rules so far

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Space Ranger, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. THEGRAAK

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  2. RolandTHTG

    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    From what I remember with the stream:
    • Tournaments will be tactical window.
    • Coordinated hacking is allowed, but has to use the same program.
    • Every unit that has two stat lines, Tohaa symbiont armor, ratniks, SuJian, Dog-warriors, etc. will now be just one rule, Transformation(X), where the X can be a specific trigger, i.e. (W) for taking a wound, or (Auto) for a unit that can switch back and forth between the two modes.
    • Fireteams will not be in the book, but published in the pdf, as they want to reserve the ability to revisit them later in N4
    • While every unit is being updated to N4, some of the sectorials will be revisited for fireteam balance and combinations throughout N4
    • SP and QK are going to go out of production at some point.
     
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  3. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Smoke now emanates vertically from the template rather than from the blast focus, so a trooper on a balcony cannot be in smoke from a lower level.
     
  4. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    So how do you release a new edition of a game without one of the core rules because you want to "revisit them in the future"? Isn't revisiting the problematic rules the exact point of a new edition?
     
  5. RolandTHTG

    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    Just one Impetuous level, model have to move, but only towards enemy if the enemy is in ZoC.
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Digitally. It just won't be in the physical book.
     
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  7. fatherboxx

    fatherboxx Mission control, I'm coming home.

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    Allowing people to test them in actual tournament everywhere for some time and then adjust is very reasonable
     
  8. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Actually makes me wonder why they're bothering with paper rulebook anymore...
    Just a thought, I mean.
     
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  9. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    So why even release a new edition at all?
     
  10. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    Oh for god's sake. If they'd said "here are the fireteam rules, we will not revisit them," you'd have complained about that instead.
     
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  11. Brokenwolf

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    Total Immunity turns the ammo type to Normal.
     
  12. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Sounds like a simple way to put it, rules-wise.
     
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  13. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    You can honestly ask that as far back as N1/N2

    A book is a nice thing to have, but is essentially a vanity product.

    They already stopped putting unit profiles in the books back in Uprising. They could probably switch to doing books that are 100% fluff (Uprising was pretty close tbh.)
     
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    Brokenwolf Well-Known Member

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    I missed some of the stream. Did they clarify if impact templates have to be centered on the target model?
     
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    They did dodge the question partially. We don't quite know how exactly it works, e.g. do you save on ARM versus Breaker ammo and does e.g. Karakuri save with BTS versus EXP ammo?
     
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    Modock Well-Known Member

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    Regarding fire team rules, I guess they need more time to test potential changes, leaving them out of the book was a wise move IMO.
     
  17. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Ammo and saving attribute seem to be different things now, so I suppose even when TI turns ammo to Normal you still use the save attribute used by the weapon

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  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    And also stops some Weapon Traits like Continuous Damage.

    They still need to be centered, unless using Speculative Attack.


    Yes, ammunition and Saving Roll Attribute were separated in CodeOne.
     
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    RolandTHTG Still wandering through the Night

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    Jammers are apparently disposable, no longer always-on.
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Circular templates always have the blast focus on the floor/bottom edge of Silhouette, even if the target is behind a low wall.
     
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