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CA in code one

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Melkhior, Mar 31, 2020.

  1. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    So we know that CA will be one of the 4 armies in the Code one. I was expecting that Adepticon seminar video would give us some info about CA in code one, because with that info we could speculate about N4 CA.

    What we know:
    If we can take PanO and Yu Jing as example there will be 25 profiles in Code one CA.

    Known units in Code one:
    Nox
    Caliban
    Mentor
    Gwailo - is this indication that gwailo will be vanilla option in N4?
    Shrouded
    Malignos
    Sheskiin
    Sphinx

    M, Q, T, R-drone E drone is imho unprobable, because PanO and Yu Jing lists don't include Evo

    Support box - graphic show us that it contain 4 models. But it can be mistake one our support box will contain 3 models.
    2x slave drone - probably new sculpt
    Medtech - also probably new sculpt unless CB give us new doctor and engineer units
    4th model can be missing Kurgat mk12 or some other unit?

    New dire foes box - I expect new character rather than resculpt. Question is what it will be. Morat? Shasvastii? Something else?

    So here we have 15 or 16 units depending on the support box. So we are missing 9 or 10 other units. What could it be?

    One of them should be character because there will be character blister. Maybe we will see Ko Dali resculpt? Or new character (hopefully not, we already have many characters).

    Other possible units: 1 Aspect (be it resculpted Skiavoro or anathematic, I would personally like skiavoro the best)
    Umbra Samaritian because we miss some loadouts
    Rasyat - only paratrooper that is missing loadouts (cadmus has models in defiance and we don't need another Fraacta), also other Morat units with exception of zerat have new model
    Zerat?
    Maakrep - again we don't have all loadouts
    Something else? New unit? What would you like to see?

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  2. Jam800

    Jam800 Well-Known Member

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    This is an interesting take on things, as I'd interpreted (or maybe simply missed the comment) that the full range of the vanilla factions for Code One would be available...?

    Admittedly this would probably still make things quite daunting for a completely new player but I also saw the Kaldstrom box being aimed at both new and old players off the back of the fancy new minis and brand new sectorials.

    To a degree I'd be a little disappointed if they limited the number of available profiles in Code One, particularly for CA as a Shasvastii heavy army wouldn't (for me at least) encapsulate the feel of the Combined Army. They are very nice minis though!

    Vanilla CA to me is more about large, powerful, elite units and/or strong hackers bullying the table, over a bunch of sneaky aliens playing underhand shenanigans. So as a minimum, I'd prefer to see some of the TAGs, maybe the Umbra, a sprinkling of Morat troops for in-your-face offence (Witch-soldiers/Krakot/Oznat & Hungries) and maybe the Fraacta & Maakrep units.

    If we're wish-listing for new sculpts or re-sculpts, then I'd love to see a multi-sniper Maakrep; some new Hungries, Anathematic and Skiavoros. Maybe an updated Ikadron/Imetron pack would be nice to see too as these guys are getting a little old...!
     
  3. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    [​IMG]
     
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  4. Jam800

    Jam800 Well-Known Member

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    I always took that to be a HMG, based on CB's starter box description. Sure I'll proxy it as a multi-sniper but I'd like a multi-sniper mini...
     
  5. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    It's the multisniper.

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  6. Jam800

    Jam800 Well-Known Member

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    Well you learn something new every day...!
     
  7. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    The Sigmaa units all have Tohaa weapon designs (aside from the MULTI-Sniper, of course). If you want to convert an HMG model there are a number of relevant blisters available to scavenge parts from.
     
  8. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I think we can safely write off any impetuous unit from Code One. So Daturazi and Oznats are right out. I am honestly afraid there will be no morat units in C1 at all, and that will mean Morats will be discontinued soon. But that is just my personal fear.

    Realistically, if we see a Morat unit in C1 it will be Suryats (since they're the Combined Army's No Frills HI) and maybe Zerats, since they have simple Skirmisher rules and there are profiles without models right now that could justify a resculpt.

    Other strong options are Yaogats, if they get a minor rework and Rodoks, because they're super good.
     
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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Liang Kai is Impetuous in N3, but is available in Code One.

    Now, I'd also write off Dats and Oznat because C1 doesn't appear to have any Smoke, but Impetuous isn't a barrier it seems.
     
  10. toadchild

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    I've got a few thoughts on this

    1. While it currently looks like armies rotating out of production is an unavoidable fact, there are a couple of Morat units in Onyx, so they can't actually all be "removed"
    2. I think that Code 1 rosters are going to be a little weird due to the restricted nature of that game and we're going to need some time to collectively get a sense of how they're structured, and what, if any, predictors they are for future N4 army plans
    3. Based on 2, I think it's unavoidable that Code 1 CA is going to be pretty Shasvastii heavy since it's based on Wildfire. I'm also expecting PanO to be biased towards Svalarheima, Yu Jing to be biased towards White Banner, and Aleph to be biased towards Operations.
     
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  11. Morganus

    Morganus Evolved Emotional Intelligence

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    My guesses or wishlist:

    Code One - Combined Army

    Action Pack (10 pcs):
    Nox (3x) - Combi - AVA: Total, C: 1
    Mentor - Boarding shotgun - AVA: 1, C: 2
    Caliban (2x) - Boarding shotgun - AVA: 2, C: 2 (the Beyond Wildfire version would be Spitfire - SWC: 1.5; C: 4)
    Shrouded - Combi - AVA: 2, C: 2
    Gwailo - HMG - AVA: 1, SWC: 2, C: 5
    Maligno - Boarding shotgun - AVA: 2, C: 3
    Sheskiin - Red Fury - AVA: 1, SWC: 1, C: 5

    TOTAL SWC = 3
    TOTAL C = 24

    Dire Foes:
    Treitak Anyat (resculpt), Specialist Operative - K1 Combi - AVA: 1, C: 2

    Support Pack (4 pcs):
    Med-Tech Obsidon Medchanoid - AVA: 1, C: 2
    Kurgat - Boarding shotgun OR MK12 (resculpt) - AVA: 2, C: 2
    Slave drones (2x) - AVA: 2, C: 0

    Remotes Pack (2 pcs):
    Drones box

    TAG Pack (1 pc):
    Sphinx (resculpt) - Spitfire, Heavy flamethrower - AVA: 1, SWC: 2, C: 10

    Booster Pack Alpha (3 pcs):
    Rodok - ML - AVA: 3, SWC: 1.5, C: 2
    Yaogat - MULTI Sniper - AVA: 2, SWC: 1.5, C: 3
    Suryat - HMG - AVA: 2, SWC: 2, C: 4

    Booster Pack Beta (3 pcs):
    Tensho (new), Specialist Operative - SMG - AVA: 1, C: 1
    Haiduk (the new sculpt) - AP Marksman rifle - AVA: 1, SWC: 0.5, C: 2
    Rasyat - Boarding shotgun - AVA: 1, C: 3

    Hero (1 pc):
    Ko Dali (resculpt) - Combi - AVA: 1, C: 4
     
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  12. toadchild

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    I think a brand new Dire Foes pack is more likely than resculpting or rebranding any of the existing ones.

    Existing Dire Foes packs with Combined Army in them:
    • Dire Foes 1: Train Rescue (Morat vs PanO)
    • Dire Foes 5: Viral Outbreak (Shasvastii vs Tohaa)
    • Dire Foes 7: Candy Cloud (Nexus vs Ariadna)
    PanO already has a Dire Foe in Code One via Dire Foes Alpha: Retaliation (PanO vs Yu Jing). The naming scheme is also different. I'm Expecting Dire Foes Beta: Something (Shasvastii vs. Aleph Operations).
     
  13. Sharrankar

    Sharrankar Well-Known Member

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    It's been confirmed that the new Dire Foes will be CA vs O-12 - and I'd also bet on Shas, as they are the main C1 focus atm. Although that doesn't mean that the Shas character will be available to Shas only
     
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  14. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Indeed, there's an O-12 vs CA Dire Foes listed on the Code One release plan.
     
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    Yeah, I meant O-12. I just forgot for a moment what the other half of Wildfire was.
     
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    While the other factions don't have EVO, I think it's unlikely that CA completely skips the core remote box, and I think it's even more unlikely that they get resculpted again. Code 1 might just not include rules for the EVO loadout, since there will still be 4 other ways to legally build the 2 models in the box.
     
  17. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    C1 doesn't look like it's going to have variant hacking devices, but a remote with hacking device and a combi rifle for 0.5 SWC and 2-2.5 points is a possibility.
     
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  18. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    Yeah I meant loadout. I don't expect to see new remote box.

    I think CB said they will support 3 sectorials for every faction. IMHO MAF is save until CB decide we need another sectorial and I don't think this will happen any time soon.
     
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  19. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    So this is CA in COde one:

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    Commented slightly in the Code One thread, but a couple of thoughts:
    1. Interesting to see Nourikas getting a real profile; he was the one from the Alive campaign that killed Tony
    2. Agent Dukash is new, but from the unit icon looks like a Shasvastii
    3. I'm not at all surprised to see that the C1 roster is (almost) entirely SEF, based on the nature of the starter box they're integrating.
     
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