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Tohaa in N4

Discussion in 'Tohaa' started by psychoticstorm, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. LZ35SRX

    LZ35SRX Well-Known Member

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    And now that we have Kendrat with VS, there're even less reasons to get Ectros xD
     
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  2. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Kendrat, interesting profiel, but i didn't play it yet, from september i'm playing 100% Spiral Corps

    But after this month tournament i'll swap to Tohaa again, so i could play Kendrat and see if it fits well or not :D :D :D
     
  3. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    The Ectros might be an interesting choice in Spiral due to tricore existing. Spiral already has the Ectros character for some reason.
     
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  4. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    The more profiles you have the more interesting it becomes, thats 100% true

    That's why now, with the new troops and the remake of the Tohaa Spec Ops loadout options, we all can perform new and "non repetitive" lists to play with our generic army
     
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  5. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    As long as I can play them with N4 rules, I don't care about how balanced they are.
     
  6. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Good news and new dice the same day! As you can see, they are being trained to work for the Triumvirate :3

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  7. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    I played the ectros HMG a lot before the sukeul came along.

    Would fire ignoring the arm value of any profile with symbiont armour be enough of a drawback?
     
  8. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    The problem is that still punishes high-wound symbiont more than low wound symbiont (the same thing the current rule does) -- a Gorgos going down to one hit from an LFL isn't desirable.
     
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    Make the Burnt status act as IMM-1 or another debuff for Symbiont Armour users? That should be fair for light and heavy armour guys.
     
  10. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Fire is already an ideal ammunition type against high-wound, low-ARM models, so I'm still not really convinced there needs to be some baked in additional vulnerability for symbioarmour (especially in the interests of removing the delineation between symbioarmour and other basically identical rules).
     
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  11. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Well, overall the points algorithm is busted and they need to stop playing games with it. No surprise there.
     
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  12. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Sure, as long as they raise the price somewhat for all symbioarmor profiles.
     
  13. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Yeah don't worry, if after the simbiont is down they will keep the same BTS, ARM and PB they can rise the price perfectly
     
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  14. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    What? No, that's not what I meant. I meant that symbio armor is mostly undercosted.
     
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  15. melkiach

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    @Hecaton this is some kind of Shashvastii operation to attempt to bring a heart attack on the rest of the Tohaa stranded on the Human Sphere??

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ^^
     
  16. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    He's right though. Symbiont Armor really screws with the rules about how many points a wound costs. Since armor costs seems to scale with wounds even though wounds tend to be a much more cost efficient investment per point, high wounds + low armor seems to hit a much better sweet spot per point.

    One of the reasons Tohaa tends to overperform is this high level of "luck insurance."
     
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  17. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    That and Makauls.
    Makaul were right when the faction was launched, with only 12 profiles and being designed as a faction to fight at close-medium range. When the faction was given access to elite HMG, Missile launcher and viral sniper then Makauls turned from being balanced in the faction into being obscenely good.
    Imho Makaul need to have their AVA halved and lose the eclipse in exchange for normal smoke if Tohaa wants to make it into N4.
     
  18. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    And deal with MSV2/MSV3 how?
     
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  19. LZ35SRX

    LZ35SRX Well-Known Member

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    Methinks somebody needs to learn how to play either for Tohaa or against them.

    I'm using 1 or 2 Makauls in most of my lists, and don't feel like they're carrying the games for me. Actually it's the opposite, almost every time I took max AVA of them, I lost.
     
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  20. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    Well presumably SymbioBombs, Kriigel Agents and Units without MSV visibility mods.

    But I do think making Makauls regular smoke is pretty much a straight upgrade to them.
     
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