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Finally (Defiance)

Discussion in 'Tohaa' started by Ignovus, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Please be good please be good please be good
     
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  2. Ignovus

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    SMG+E/Mitter is hella interesting.
     
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  3. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Interesting. I prefer him to the combi kiiutan in vanilla, but I'm not sure by how much.
     

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  4. Spellbreaker90

    Spellbreaker90 Well-Known Member

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    Disappointed. He pay extra point for CC skills that he don't want to use and 1 SWC for what mines ?
     
  5. Usashi

    Usashi Well-Known Member

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    So basically with CC18 and only I-khol 1 he can stick that cool looking polearm up his a... At least miniature is nice. I'm a bit disappointed. The pose was promising and I was hoping for maybe not cc monster but at least efficient fighter. With stats like this I don't think CC is valid option for him.
     
  6. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Either the shotgun or the viral pistols alone would have been a nearly perfect weapon loadout in combination with the mines for the kind of attack he launches. It seems like he's paying for a bunch of different things just so his points cost stays at the ~30pt range.
     
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    daszul Well-Known Member

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    So he got this useless spear only to be unable to use his second pistol properly, or what?
     
  8. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Feels like CC is over represented on the model for what the profile does. But at least this is a buff to tohaa
     
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  9. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Shotgun+Mines+2 Viral pistol, 31+1

    Another "kiuutan" loadout, seems playable to me!
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Agree, but this is our feelings about the artwork and the render, Ectros are similar on that aspect
     
  11. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Impersonators with mines are fucking insane.
     
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  12. LoganGarnett

    LoganGarnett Well-Known Member

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    CC is not what I expected, but still useful in certain situations. Surprise Attack+L-Khol is still a great tool to use. But Mines+Shotgun turn him from a disappointing CC-guy into a superb fireteam/cheerleader killer. And then they slapped twin Viral Pistols on him to make sure none of his targets have any chance of survival.
    I don't know how about you, but I see it as an indirect way to buff my Khawarijs and that makes me not so dead inside :^)
     
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  13. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    The CAP cost is high, but it carries more options than the Tohaa Kiuutan. I like it.

    But there is one little problem... years ago, when we were speculating about the possible Triumvirate Sectorial, I asked for a Tohaa impersonator that, instead of being a CC specialist, was designed around killing weak targets shooting them to death. With 2 Viral Pistols.


    I demand Jaan Staar to be renamed :p
     
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  14. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Abriil Etee, Kiuutan impostor lol
     
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  15. Iro

    Iro Unidron, Dron, Dron, saca los cuernos al Sol~~

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    Never! Jaan Staar, next Jojo of Season 9 of JBA. XD
     
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  16. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    Fuck I haaate models with huge, awesome looking weapons and turbo-mediocre CC performance. Hate it!

    I definitely feel the CC stuff is there mainly to bloat him up, given the cost of LSG and mines. But I also feel that this is what an impersonator should cost - the ones available to Spiral are undercosted and exist as a faction specific strength. A surprise attacking, CC18 ikhol model hitting with a Viral Pistol isn't too bad, but probably not plan A given he cannot reimpersonate and is kind of in trouble if the target survives.

    Everything else is kind of perfectly what I would want a Tohaa impersonator to be. Not just another efficient smokey punchy kill monster. This profile seems a big upgrade over the combi Kiiutaan, in that it trades a very mediocre distance shooting option for a combination of mines, templates, and viral ammo. I don't know if its good, but I do think its certainly more interesting than the combi option and worth testing out.

    In particular if you go the no-marker bomb state he is bringing so many damn options its hard to comprehend them all. He could work well as a midfield "fuck off" instead of a first turn assassin in that loadout. But I find that attacking with a non-reserve non-marker Kiiutaan is often pretty tough
     
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  17. bona

    bona Well-Known Member

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    How do we know you aren’t Jaan Staar impersonating Abrilete?


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
     
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  18. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    They has been repainted or is photoshop?
     
  20. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Photoshop, the angles are identical to the original promo shots with yellow symbs
     
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