Well, I think there is value in exchanging opinions beyond trying to sway anyone. For one thing, it promotes understanding: one might find oneself playing against someone on the other side of the fence on an issue, and it's good to know where they come from when trying to find a common ground to have an enjoyable game. But yeah, admittedly, I'm not gonna try to persuade someone living a continent away to adapt their friendly games to suit my style. It is probably as close to a "to each their own" type of issue as you can get.
Well, the other thought about making something that people do regularly against the rules is so you can selectively enforce it; say, on anyone in a tournament who beats someone in your local playgroup too hard. Which is shitty, but I've heard of it happening.
Yeah, it boils down to manners and sportsmanship, I guess. Well, in the beginning there was the opinion that those things were Private Information. But I think it became clear that it's just part of the rules. So, how can TOs even think of prohibiting this, as some mentioned?
Well... probably in the same manner that a TO would disallow placing Silhouettes on the table prior to skill declarations, disallow players from sticking down templates on the table before determining final target or telling people that beverages are not allowed on the gaming surface or table the gaming surface is on.
What happens if i dont remember myself all the army costs and options? Do i risk giving false information to my opponent? What if i give information i was sure about and after the game we find out that i "lied"? I prefer to answer vaguely and tell my friend just to play the game and worry about those stuff after he is more experienced. I help them all with decisions anyway. I actually helped one friend beat me in last mini tourney we played because he was taking too long to calculate his final round. I, being the more experienced, just quickly computed his best order efficient outcome. He won by 1 OP decided by the 2nd half of his last order. His words were: You basically just won me the game. We had fun.
There's an ap for that. Anyway, I'm torn. I like that there might be an advantage to playing a rare army like Foreign Company, but at the same time, its a 10 second job to find out what the infiltrating camo in Foreign Company is that can be done while waiting for the other guy to deploy.
It seems really easy to reconstruct the hidden units from point values faction, etc. I just started playing and I can already see that. I can see where it might be against the spirit of the game. Its also notable that these hidden units are suppose to be special. The only way to stop people from guessing is increasing the possibities to the point that its not worth the effort. That means more things to spend the 'secret' points on. Even then without really good balance it will often still be odvious.
It's only considered "cheating" by casinos "and importantly not by law" because they don't want you to win. If you win to much they just stop playing with you.
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I'd argue that the main advantage of these units is not the enemy not knowing about them, it's enemy not knowing where they are. Also, it's easy to see hidden unit if it's the only thing missing, but there are also factions that can (and often do) hide a lot of their list in markers. That makes it really hard to reengineer the list from open info - how can I know if there's two minelayers and two mines or four dudes in those four shasvastii camo markers? And that's a whole Noctifer in that difference.
Just tell the truth: "I dont remember, I think it was like this and this..., but you can check on army" you are right, but you mostly only need 2 "hidden" troops to make the enemy doubt, also, they might not know if its an AD or a TO (usually they know if you ask the rival to turn around and take a picture, but you can also explain it in a paper), and even when they know there is something missing, they might not now what it is, and where it will appear
Ok. I'm confused. Using the books/app/whatever to reconstruct someone's list while in the middle of playing to discover... whatever... is completely kosher. But a "fake" request to turn around is not? Never mind that there are classifieds that would need the exact same thing if photo ID is a thing.