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A quick list review for to days game. =)

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by MAlgol, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    So today we are going with Hunting Party. It will probably be vs Aleph and perhaps against Ariadna and Combine.

    To me this seems like an aggressive list. The Reverends are in a Trio. Will probably save the Sin-Eater for last placement. If i go against Aleph Im sure I will have to face a Atalanta. =/

    Got to go, back soon with details. =)

    Thoughts?

    [​IMG] 300pts Kusanagi Trio and the Higher Power
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (+1 | 44)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] SIN-EATER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 33)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] TASKMASTER Red Fury, Pulzar, CrazyKoalas + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 53)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 297 Points

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  2. HarlequinOfDeath

    HarlequinOfDeath Tha Taskmastaaa
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    In Bakunin and for Hunting Party I am a huge fan of a 5 model Moira Fireteam with E/M-Grenade Launcher with Zero FO and/or Custodier support (for Pitcher and Spotlight). Then you fire speculative grenades on +3 instead of -6. This can be a huge advantage if the enemy specialists and LT are placed on the roof of a building.

    For ARO I would prefer a TR Drone if you have a hacker on the table.

    A single Riot Grrl is tricky since she has Frenzy and is not in a Fireteam.
     
  3. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I would assume Aleph will go with Chain Rifle Myrmidons and at least one ekdromoi. In that regard, unless the Limited Insertion extra is used, you will be at a disadvantage on several accounts... and if it is, either a Marut or a Spitfire Asura will be in front of you. Expecting Atalanta and placing a Sin Eater as a single ARO piece means you will be playing mostly at dodging, since you will be at -6 (smoke, cover, good range) with Burst 2 :S

    That being said, the most glaring problem with your list is the lack of an engineer. How do you plan to remove the IMM2? The 20pts Ekdromoi can enter from your back, glue the Sin Eater, and avoid Frenzy (no damage caused!), removing your ARO piece...

    The Zeroes are a good piece, but avoid exposing any of the four camos to enemy fire. Use the Taskmaster on a flank, so the Sin Eater is covered on a side, and plant the Sin Eater on that same flank.

    As for the Riot, I would change her for a total reaction, the moderator for an engineer, and the daktari for a Spitfire moderator to use as a throwaway piece to assault with. Personally, I prefer the HMG sin-eater, and you can move him around since he will have an ADL aswell.

    Finally, note the Elite, Veteran, and Headquarters troops there that will receive an ADL. I think only the custodier will want to use it in your list, however... :S
     
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  4. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I wouldn't worry too much about Frenzy on the Grrl it comes up way less often than you'd think.
     
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  5. HarlequinOfDeath

    HarlequinOfDeath Tha Taskmastaaa
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    If you want to keep that Kusanagi Haris, I would try such a list, but don't think it will be super effective in Hunting Party if the enemy rushes at you:

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 10)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    [​IMG] TASKMASTER Red Fury, Pulzar, CrazyKoalas + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 53)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    A Moira link with some Prowler suprise action:

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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  6. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    Made some changes.
    Riot Grrl > TR zond.
    Sin-Eater MSR > HMG
    Moderator > Clockmaker

    Both the Clockmaker and the Doctari gets a Zond each.

    Depending on if I deploy first or not I can always try to deploy the Sin-Eater so that he wont be in LoF from Atalanta at least.

    [​IMG] 300pts Kusanagi Trio and the Higher Power
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (+1 | 44)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] TASKMASTER Red Fury, Pulzar, CrazyKoalas + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 53)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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  7. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    Hmm.. ODD or any sort of camo will be a problem for me. Damn Bakunin and its lack of MSV =|
    Could do a switcheroo and go Corregidor with Intruders, Brigada and the old Lunokhod.
     
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  8. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    Vanilla?
    [​IMG] Hunting Party
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    [​IMG]8
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] KRIZA BORAC (360º Visor) Mk12, Submachine Gun / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 63)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 33)

    5 SWC | 254 Points

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    I like Pi-well, not the best BS but can use Triangulated Fire (never done it but this could be the day).
    Perhaps add Lunokhod. For some reason I have prefered a Taskmaster over Kriza but I should give him a try.
    I am quite sure I wont go up against a TAG vs Aleph, the Combined might show up with the Avatar though. =)

    Sorry for going all over the place but making list used to be easy when no one here had much to change around but this year people started buying new things and everything became complicated. =)
    That and I have never been good at this part of the meta play.
     
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  9. HarlequinOfDeath

    HarlequinOfDeath Tha Taskmastaaa
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    ODD is always a problem and an Intruder helps for sure. But you have to think what your enemy will try to achieve: Isolate specialists and LT.

    The Moira fireteam is quite broken for this mission, in any other case this mission is tricky. Your opponent will try to hide his specialists and LT. So you need something to get them. Believe me, it will be hard. With your Vanilla list you lack orders as well as somebody who can get into his backfield.

    I know it is a cheap tactic, but I still like the speculative fire even in Vanilla.

    In any other case you need some AD or Climbing Plus unit to get to your main targets.

    [​IMG] DM 11.2017 II
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] MORAN Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] MORAN Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I used this list in the German championship last year and it did work against ALEPH in Hunting Party.
     
  10. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    [​IMG]Nuns 'n glue guns
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Played this list at several tournaments and the German Chamionship. Conclusion: 100% win ratio. The most quaint win was a 8:0 against Aleph with 300 of 300 opponent Points left. All of them isolated though. :grin:
     
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  11. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    I like thé two Sister fireteam lists, will try it today. A list with lots of orders an units I don't know how to play, I need to learn but not today :)
     
  12. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget that White Noise is an ARO. Get that pitcher covering Atalanta and make her useless.
     
  13. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    I want to congratulate you for successfully winning a battle while remaining non-violent.
     
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  14. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Yeah, Bakunin has Hunting Party locked up. I've never even come close to losing that mission with the Moira team on the board.

    I'd take the clockmaker over a daktari in any list for this mission. He'll be clutch when you biff some important roll... the doc less so.

    Finally, if you're worried about Atalanta, forget the sin eater, she'll probably win against him. White Noise on your turn and kill her with a reaktion zond or something. As said above, the pitcher will really shine when it comes to neutralizing her.
     
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  15. HarlequinOfDeath

    HarlequinOfDeath Tha Taskmastaaa
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    There is no reason to let ALEPH's inhuman creations alive. :smiling_imp:
     
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  16. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    White Noise has to be placed inside the Hacking Area, and the Hacker needs to see Atalanta (that means having LoF), so that needs a heavy investment on ARO troopers... or at least 2 orders, and your enemy will either fire against your H+ (and I'd say it would be a normal roll for both) or be happy with the waste you made and dodge to hide Atalanta.
     
  17. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    Doesn't the Repeater count as Hacking Area so I can place it there? Plonk it out in front of her and then White Noise.

    Working on a very short and basic AAR, it was a fun game that ended in a Draw. =)
    The table!
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Yes, but the "the Hacker can declare ARO" situation requires either a hackable enemy troop generating ARO inside your Hacking area (and remember most greeks have Stealth due to Martial Arts or being Scylla KHD...), or for the hacker to have LoF to the enemy troop being activated :S

    Edit: about your table, quite good looking, but too simmetrical, I see little reason to choose side, frankly.
     
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  19. Ieldin Soecr

    Ieldin Soecr Well-Known Member

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    Hacker can declare Hacking AROs through repeaters also when non hackable trooper activate within them:
    In the same way, they can also react with Hacking Programs to enemy Orders declared in the Zone of Control of the Repeater as if it were their Zone of Control.​
    Normaly they can only react to hackable troopers because their programs require these as a target. But White Noise has no such requirement.
    This is espacially usefull if you can lure Impetuous trooper into repeater and use the generated ARO to place White Noise onto your reaction pieces (Granted this does not work when he does use stealth but normally these troopers throw smoke or something as their second short skill).
     
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  20. MAlgol

    MAlgol I couldn't tackle the bear

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    haha.. damnit.
    My hacking list didnt have ARO as Skill Type for White Noise so I missed it. Promptly corrected! =)
     
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